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Ivo:
Futher to a discussion on Landberg somerso vases on this forum, I have now dragged 4 similar vases into the light. Maybe we can establish who did what, and how can you tell.

The size range is from 18 to 22 cm.

Number 1 is flat oval; number 2 is triangular (bought that in Stockholm the other day); Number 3 is rectangular and signed Orrefors <?>u 35957; and number 4 I have marked down as Gullaskruf - but that does not have to be so, of course.

So - who else is on the shortlist for this type of vase?



langhaugh:
Off the top of my head, I'd add Smalandshyttan (photo attached), Strombergshyttan (Gunnar Nylund), Johansfors (Bengt Orup), and iitala (Errki Vesanto). I confess that I tell by only buying ones that are signed or have labels. Often, the non Landberg have a brown in them (Smalandshyttan, Strombergshyttan, and Johansfors, for example), whereas the Landberg seems alone in having a deep charcoal).

The number on Ivo's piece seems anomalous in that it has five numbers, whereas all five pieces of similar Landberg of mine have only four. I referred to Ruding's chapter in the Orrefors book, but that didn't take me further. They started using five numbers  in 1980 but it seems the first 2 numbers were 90.

That leads me to what might be another thread, "When is a charcoal sommerso piece by Nils Landberg correctly called  "Dusk?" Friedman identifies three pieces as Dusk on p. 93 of his book, the numbers are 3538/5, 3596/1 and 3558/10. Duncan on p.126 of his book shows very similar pieces but calls them "Group of heavy-walled pieces,...1955-57."

I've taken a quick and dirty picture of the pieces I have. They're all marked "Orrefors NU", except the one on the extreme left which is marked "Orrefors or." The numbers are (from the left), 3538/138, 3812(the 2 here is a guess), 3538/5, 3736, 3857/8. Which pieces would qualify as "Dusk?"

Anyone know who started the style, or is the style more a representation of a then prevailing sensibility?
 
I forgot to add what jealousy a phrase like "bought that in Stockholm the other day" can create in someone in far off Vancouver, B.C.

David

Ivo:
Thank you for your delightfully detailed answer. The number on the Orrefors piece could be 3736/ which would make it a dusk - but you know how scratching gets in the way of the sig.

Then there is the rest of the crew.
- green sharp oval, probably Italian
- purple flat oval, 100% Strömbergshyttan
- blueish green full oval, possibly Strömbergshyttan of later date
- Smoke grey circular, unknown
- blueish green squat flat oval, perhaps like number 3
- Single colour full oval, possible signature lost in scratch
- Bengt Orup vase in a similar-but-not-quite  colour just to show that the previous is not.

taylog1:
Swedish glass factories shows a similar vase with the signature NU 3595/2 heights 175 215 250 mm

aa:
Hello Gareth, you have been very quiet recently. Hope everything's ok with you. :)

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