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Offline Andy

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Re: I.d. scottish vase ??
« Reply #20 on: August 06, 2008, 08:47:34 PM »
Yeah, but,' Parcelforce Global Priority'  !!


Frank,
thanks, great info, very much appreciated,
I will keep looking for these, apologies if you have to repeat yourself over the years,
any info i find out, i will pass on!

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Andy

ps .  but apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, a fresh water system, and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us?

pps, dare i ask, wot about my new purple bowl??
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,22328.0.html

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Re: I.d. scottish vase ??
« Reply #21 on: August 06, 2008, 09:36:57 PM »
So thats how you make a profit, I knew I was doing something wrong  :angel:
martin


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Re: I.d. scottish vase ??
« Reply #22 on: August 06, 2008, 09:39:54 PM »
No need for apologies, it is often better to iterate the full background of an attribution when dissenting voices are aired. Perhaps I should add a page to the web-site:

"Cellophane Glass - an alternative for cash strapped collectors of great glass." 8)

With a subtitle:
"A 30 year hunt for the maker."  ;D

- Of course it will push the prices up.
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Re: scottish vase ?? = Cellophane
« Reply #23 on: January 30, 2010, 12:14:42 AM »
This vase poses more questions than answers, the vase has some Ysart styles i.e the whorl, gold aventurine and the thistle shape of the vase but there the similarity stops, it is much to heave, wrong type of pontil and it has a "cellophane" type decoration though only on the bottom half.
To add some info on the "cellophane" attribution Monart did do something not unlike that kind of decoration, shown here on the fourth pic which is Monart shape GE.


 


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Re: scottish vase ?? = Cellophane
« Reply #24 on: February 02, 2010, 10:41:12 AM »
Gary,
its interesting, yours looks quite different to the other Cellophane examples,
id be interested in Franks opinion on it.
One just sold on ebay for a reasonable price ,
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130361024488&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

A bit off topic , Martin, the pics in the orig post, is the vase sitting on an Ercol table?
It looks the same as mine.  ;D
Cheers
Andy
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Re: scottish vase ?? = Cellophane
« Reply #25 on: February 02, 2010, 04:23:24 PM »
Hi Andy
I do have one vase more like the " usual Cellophane", which I bought on the dreaded eBay a couple of years ago as a piece of Monart, which I know now it is not, lesson learned as they say. A real heavy piece standing 19cm tall and 23 wide at the top.

Gary


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Re: scottish vase ?? = Cellophane
« Reply #26 on: February 02, 2010, 08:18:37 PM »
Same colours as your Monart bowl :thup:
I quite like them, and i hope , one day, we find out where they came from!

Andy
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Re: scottish vase ?? = Cellophane
« Reply #27 on: February 03, 2010, 11:53:36 AM »
I'd like to see clearer pics of the small bowl. The footed vase does not look like a cellophane. If it is heavier glass than Monart I would think it is Peter Holmes or Strathearn. With the vase larger pics  might help too. Tried lightening abd blowing up but no detail shows. Looks like vary different approach to decorating than the Ysart way. WMF Ikora is not impossible, not very likely.
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Re: scottish vase ?? = Cellophane
« Reply #28 on: February 04, 2010, 03:57:51 PM »
Hi
Here are some more clearer!! pics.
Gary


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Re: scottish vase ?? = Cellophane
« Reply #29 on: June 18, 2011, 07:19:04 PM »
The red blue is the same colours as in Plate 40 of Ysart glass and as I mention there usually found with white inner and on surface decorated. Probably Kugler colours so not surprising if we find a match to cellophane, but you would need to have it next to a piece of that to be sure it is the same. Of course the Ysart's made little use of translucent colours whereas all the cellophane is. The small size gives it greater intensity.

The other piece is not cellophane nor Monart but could be Scottish... or not.
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