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Author Topic: can anyone identify this big blue streaky jar or vase please?  (Read 6645 times)

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Offline christranslates

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Re: can anyone identify this big blue streaky jar or vase please?
« Reply #10 on: June 22, 2008, 05:51:39 AM »
 :cheers: Frank and Christine ! Fascinating ! 
In view of Frank's last remark  and because it looks great with flowers in it, I think  I'll probably end up keeping this one.   ;)
Thank you so much everyone,
Chris  :)
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Re: can anyone identify this big blue streaky jar or vase please?
« Reply #11 on: June 22, 2008, 06:54:53 AM »
Another possibility, albeit remote, is this range by Haden, Mullett & Haden.

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Re: can anyone identify this big blue streaky jar or vase please?
« Reply #12 on: June 22, 2008, 09:18:55 AM »
Which looks, from a couple of those shapes, like they might have been passed off as Gray-Stan. Like to see those in colour.

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Re: can anyone identify this big blue streaky jar or vase please?
« Reply #13 on: June 22, 2008, 10:01:18 AM »
Hi,

It occurs to me that if a company is producing stained glass windows and they also make glass - why would they outsource if it can adequately and economically produce what is required inhouse (and with the added advantage of control on the quality)? Powell was a good example of this - there are pictures of the muff production method on pages 196 and 209 of Whitefriars Glass, James Powell & Sons of London, the London Museum book. 'Muffs' are shown as the cylinder method of blowing sheet glass.

As for the size, it would also allow the possiblity for the production of specialised colourways if required. More importantly, it followed in the tradition of the size of glass used in stained glass windows with the associated necessity to use lead to join the pieces together. Indeed Powell's quarries (a type of glass panel) attracted the attention of Charles Winston, an authority on medieval stained glass who wrote Hints on Glass Painting in 1847.

"He persuaded the Powells to experiment with their traditional maff, or blown sheet, glass. The sheets in 'Winston colours' that resulted met with great enthusiasm from architects of the day." page 34 - as above.

Whilst I have been writing this, there has been another post.

The Haden, Mullett & Haden pieces could only be passed of as Gray-stan to those who have not handled the latter. They are too heavier construction to mistaken as Gray-stan (and the colour is laid in differently). There is indeed a similarity with the swirling.

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Re: can anyone identify this big blue streaky jar or vase please?
« Reply #14 on: June 22, 2008, 11:02:20 AM »
Hi,
Just looked a Tom Hill (Whitefriars) workbook entry for 27th April 1942 and there is mention of 72 Green Boxes being made.
Image by kind permission of Museum of London.

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Re: can anyone identify this big blue streaky jar or vase please?
« Reply #15 on: August 14, 2008, 07:24:20 PM »
Hello,

Earlier in the month on our return from King's Lynn and the 'Hi Sklo Lo Sklo@ czech glass exhibition I decided that we would make a small detour via Ely Cathedral, if only to check my memory ;)

Brilliant, the old grey cells didn't let me down. In the shop area to the Stained Glass Museum low and behold there was a display all about stained glass and its production. There was an example of a Muff in streaky amber and a cube bottle vase like the one that started this thread.

The label reads:

"NORMAN SLAB BOTTLE: The glass has been blown into a box-shaped mould, cooled and then divided down its edges. The pieces are thickest in the centre. They were a feature of the 19th century Gothic Revival in England"

We now have a name for this type of bottle vase, which is great :)

Cheers, Nigel


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