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Offline Cazza

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caithness p/weight can anyone tell me how rare please?
« on: August 29, 2008, 04:30:57 PM »
Red Carnation paperweight by caithness, found an article that said it was rare, can anyone tell me how rare please? Any ideas on value, I know you dont like giving values but somewhere in the region of would do. thank you
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Re: caithness p/weight can anyone tell me how rare please?
« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2008, 04:59:19 PM »
How is it marked?

Did you look through flowers and roses ?
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Re: caithness p/weight can anyone tell me how rare please?
« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2008, 05:08:09 PM »
Hi frank
Found it in  flowers, but there is not a photo of it, its a picture from a book/catalouge. Its marked Caithness red Carnation scotland T83469, looks like it was done by hand. i am no expert tho.
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Re: caithness p/weight can anyone tell me how rare please?
« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2008, 06:48:27 PM »
a crimp's been used for the making of the carnation, it was an unlimited run issued in 1999 i had one a while ago
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Re: caithness p/weight can anyone tell me how rare please?
« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2008, 09:57:22 PM »
I think Ray is right - but there was also a "Red Carnation" weight made in 2002, however the Charlton Catalogue image is somewhat less than useful for reasonable identification and I don't think Frank yet has an image, or entry, for that one.

Assuming it is the 1999 version, then Frank's site shows a good image in page 11 of the "Flowers" category: "Red Carnation (Style 1) 1999 - U99190 Medium". The Charlton Catalogue states the original issue price was UK £35, US $82.50 and that the 1999 "value" was a whopping UK £250.00, US $500.00! (perhaps not many of the "unlimited" run were made??) The reality of current value may be quite a bit different from those figures!

But ... the 1999 weight does not tie up with the product number that Cazza quoted (T83469).
I'm a bit confused.
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Re: caithness p/weight can anyone tell me how rare please?
« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2008, 10:17:31 PM »
Hi have taken a photo of the base, perhaps it will help.
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Re: caithness p/weight can anyone tell me how rare please?
« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2008, 11:03:36 AM »
The 2002 one was for Cash's of Ireland. Getting images of commissioned weights is a bit more difficult. The T numbering may well have been used for commissioned weights and as this one lacks bubbles I would think it is the ideal candidate.

Nothing else matching in a quick glance through the hundreds waiting to be uploaded either.

As the 2002 was designed by Alastair it is probably quickest to ask him for confirmation, he may even recall how many were made.

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Re: caithness p/weight can anyone tell me how rare please?
« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2008, 11:18:25 AM »
Hi again Frank, there are bubbles at the back,  I just looked at the picture and its the same exactly the same, except no.s of course? Still a puzzle.
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Re: caithness p/weight can anyone tell me how rare please?
« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2008, 05:19:25 PM »
Re read what you wrote and have now emailed Alastair, will keep you informed.
Thanks
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Re: caithness p/weight can anyone tell me how rare please?
« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2008, 06:33:10 AM »

Does anyone understand how the Charlton catalogue comes up with its 'current prices'?  They seem to bear no relation to reality! And the £/$ exchange rate for the issue prices is bizarre. But then, Caithness did go bust ......

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