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Author Topic: Unusual Etch on Champagne Dishes Unknown Maker Poss European  (Read 2131 times)

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Offline krsilber

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Re: Unusual Etch on Champagne Dishes Unknown Maker Poss European
« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2008, 03:08:24 AM »
CMoG=Corning Museum of Glass.

I see what you mean about it looking like the pen never left the surface.  The steel plates that were used to create the ink transfers for plate etching were etched the same way glass is.  Resist is put on, someone  scratches through it with a needle or other tool, and the plate is put in acid.  So acid etched glass may look like it's hand-drawn because the template is.  I'm not sure that they didn't sometimes embellish or touch up patterns that were based on templates, though the process was laborious enough as it was that I doubt they did too much.

Ah, yes, Karen the lighter collector!  Now I get the pyrology ID. :)

...Just saw your new post.  Which one?  1093 has a cut stem, and it's on plate (Tafel) 97.
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Re: Unusual Etch on Champagne Dishes Unknown Maker Poss European
« Reply #11 on: September 10, 2008, 04:15:43 AM »
Yes! Thats me!
And YES #52 Page #97.

The stems are also cut on these, with arched tops where they meet the bowl, with simple attchment to the foot. Very similar.

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Re: Unusual Etch on Champagne Dishes Unknown Maker Poss European
« Reply #12 on: September 11, 2008, 03:03:36 AM »
So Kristi, what do you think? do they mach up?


Anyone else have anything to add?

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Re: Unusual Etch on Champagne Dishes Unknown Maker Poss European
« Reply #13 on: September 11, 2008, 05:15:15 AM »
Here's some better photos of the etch close up. Under this magnification I am thinking that this is acid etched?   ...

Karen — Yes, thanks for the close-ups, and definitely all acid-etched decoration.

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Re: Unusual Etch on Champagne Dishes Unknown Maker Poss European
« Reply #14 on: September 11, 2008, 05:26:09 AM »
I don't know, hard to tell from your photo - I couldn't even see that the stem was facetted (though it was in your description, duh!).  You say yours has a slight optic, no?  I don't see any evidence of that in the Baccarat stem.  I think part of the reason it's hard to compare yours is because the photo is taken close-up, so it's hard to see the whole profile.  Sometimes I set my camera to take a big photo, take it from far away, and crop the excess to avoid such problems of perspective.  Then you still get good resolution and a decent size photo.
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Re: Unusual Etch on Champagne Dishes Unknown Maker Poss European
« Reply #15 on: September 13, 2008, 02:28:42 AM »
I guess I will have to try some additional pics in the daylight tomorrow (it was rainy and overcast today) I like overcast for taking shots of clear glass, but the continual drizzle made it impossible to take photos today.

I'll be back!

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Re: Unusual Etch on Champagne Dishes Unknown Maker Poss European
« Reply #16 on: January 18, 2009, 11:03:15 PM »
Just resurrecting this thread in hopes that someone might recognize this pattern.
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