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Offline tropdevin

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Paul Ysart Butterfly paperweight
« on: September 26, 2008, 04:37:40 PM »
I do not doubt the attribution of this item, but is it possible to be confident it is from the 1930s?

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Re: Paul Ysart Butterfly paperweight
« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2008, 05:50:51 PM »
Cannot see the tint of the metal in those pictures which is the quickest 'guideline'. The Orange base was certainly a colour in use by the Ysart's in the 30s.
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Re: Paul Ysart Butterfly paperweight
« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2008, 08:03:23 PM »
Shame that out of all the pictures there isn't one that gives a side on profile view as 1930s weights often are a little flatter in profile. I have a couple including a butterfly which are definitely early and have the flatter profile

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Re: Paul Ysart Butterfly paperweight
« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2008, 10:36:13 PM »
1930s weights often are a little flatter in profile
True, but often they are very varied in profile, too. From my own examples of flatter profile weights, it is a more obvious feature in weights less than 7cm diameter.

My view is that the eBay example could well be 1930s, but might also be 40s or 50s. A mottled orange ground seems to have been used by Paul in all of those periods, but in weights with very clear domes (which I believe to be late 40s, 50s or very early 60s [apart from those with no obvious tint but which show apparent features of being 30s work!!]) the mottled orange that I have seen has been brighter (i.e. more yellowish).

Those particular blue/yellow canes are often seen in PY weights which do tie in with pre-war features. But, of course, they can also be found in later work, too.

It's all really so simple, isn't it? ;D

Maybe I should buy this one just to check it out under UV? But I seem to recall that I have said before that I have not yet been able to cofirm other people's thoughts that UV results of 30s work is a brighter green than post-war work.

Maybe I should just buy 'cause I like it?


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