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Offline David555

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Two Murano Items - but who made them?
« on: August 26, 2005, 11:00:47 PM »
Hi - two links

1) This is a gold cloth backed glass dish c1960 - 5.5" x 5.5" the colours on the glass which is like a moulded tile are amazing - it's like enamel - there is lots of red writing on the back but it is too washed out for me to make out anything but the words Murano and Venice - I would like to know the maker - link http://tinypic.com/b712bn.jpg

2) This is a really heavy decanter in emerald green - it weighs and is 15" high - it's in perfect condition and took some cleaning after 40 years of grime - I see these listed in books but there is never an attribution - it is not signed - I love it as it has beautiful proportions and is undamaged - the bottom is ground and polished and so is the top (stopper) link - http://tinypic.com/b712xj.jpg
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Two Murano Items - but who made them?
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2005, 11:36:50 PM »
1st one is more likely to be made out of copper coated with enamel

not sure on the 2nd one
cheers Ray


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Re: Two Murano Items - but who made them?
« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2005, 02:41:15 PM »
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it's like enamel - there is lots of red writing on the back but it is too washed out for me to make out anything but the words Murano and Venice - I would like to know the maker - link http://tinypic.com/b712bn.jpg

Loathe though I am to disagree with Ray ;), my immediate feeling on this is pigskin glass...  we had a discussion about this some time ago, as I found a piece last year and then Sandra replied about it one she had as well... some are  Canadian but it's a traditional Mexican glass craft apparently. Have a read of our earlier discussions here... http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,1324.0.html and my piece is here: http://www.yobunny.org.uk/gallery1/displayimage.php?&pos=-56  Hope this helps. :)


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« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2005, 02:44:49 PM »
Hi David555.   I have a very similar shallow dish.  The back, like yours, appears to be coated with a gold plastic type material.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/glassie/60sglassdish2.jpg

However, it has the remains of a label still on it with what appears to be MADE IN CANADA 'MAYFAIR GIFTS'  PORT (?) / **** PRAIRIE".   Some of the letters are worn and are difficult to make out.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/glassie/60sglassdish005.jpg


Underneath it has some instructions on how to clean - i.e. with a damp cloth...   I would imagine it was made for the tourist trade, but perhaps someone can confirm.  Its interesting that you have a very similar one that appears to be Italian.   

This is one of my favourite retro pieces.  I love the abstract patterning which looks granular on close-up http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/glassie/60sglassdish003.jpg

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« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2005, 02:50:14 PM »
Hi t'other Anne! Yours looks like pigskin glass as well... we seem to be gathering a collection of this on the board! :)


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« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2005, 04:01:21 PM »
I've never heard of pigskin glass :oops: .  What on earth is it :?:  :?   I made the mistake of washing my dish (completely ignoring what bit of the instructions could be seen), and the backing started to come away from the edges.  I had to rub them down very gently with very fine glasspaper to make it look decent again.  That's why the gold backing cannot be seen on the 'aerial' view.  Thankfully it didn't spoil its appearance, and it looks as if it has always been that way!  I just wish it was a huge oil painting instead of a piece of glass (or should I say, as well as, because I really love it, even though it is probably worth very little). :lol:  I must get my oils out and have a dabble...
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« Reply #6 on: August 28, 2005, 12:01:46 AM »
Just as a thought though... David555 says his dish has a Murano and Venice mark on the back... I wonder if this could be one of those pieces from Murano/Venice in south America?  These were mentioned elsewhere as well recently I seem to recall?


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« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2005, 12:19:59 AM »
Hi again David55,
Is the corner photo on the pic the signature saying Murano? Can you try a better photo? I wasnt able to read it. Looks like a symbol other than words.
Maybe thats not what you photographed?
Let us know.
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« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2005, 12:31:19 AM »
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I've never heard of pigskin glass :oops: .  What on earth is it :?:

The ones I've seen are gorgeous... I did try and find some more about these pieces but the only link I could find was this one... http://www.geocities.com/galleryartfx/manuelsilvia.html

although today I also found a new one with a couple of pics of his pieces...
http://www.pastichegallery.com/Bio/Biopages/manuelsilva.html


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« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2005, 12:47:10 AM »
Thanks everyone - I also have never heard about 'pigskin' glass - I collect Italian 1960s enamel on copper (as well as all glass - for my sins I am a designer/artist and get inspiration, I do buy and sell a lot on eBay as well though)- At first I thought that is what this was - but it is glass or really thick heavy enamel - the wear on the base tells me this is 1960s 70s - in terms of getting a closer picture - I have tried and it is just a blur - I am now doubting I see Murano (auto suggestion from other bits) printed and having heard Canada mentioned I think at the top area I can see that, but to be honest its a blur and age does do this to paper bases - I have a few bits of this and can see why even though the backing is a gold painted paper composite - the word 'pigskin' would be used as originally that may have been the material used - here is a really big pic of the mark , though I doubt it will help -

http://tinypic.com/b8k9ck.jpg

What do you think? I can't make much out
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