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Author Topic: Am I Georgian or a modern copy?  (Read 488 times)

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Offline chloe

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Am I Georgian or a modern copy?
« on: October 28, 2008, 09:44:12 PM »
This is a stunning glass in a definate Georgian style, though in amazing condition.  Base has a ground & polished pontil.  Is extremely heavy.

TIA x

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Re: Am I Georgian or a modern copy?
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2008, 12:41:14 AM »
Hi,

It looks very bright with extremely clear metal. I would expect that it is 20th century, but always that rider, that there's no substitute for handling the piece.

Nigel

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Re: Am I Georgian or a modern copy?
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2008, 01:10:17 AM »
Hi, Chloe

Sorry to tell you that your glass is not Georgian and not even Georgian Style. Its more look like Regency Style. It is definitely 20thc copy.First to look in an old glass is the colour of the glass. If it is white and bright than it is no older than 20C.

All you have to do is pick up any clear modern glass and compare. If it is same colour then it is modern. Old glass tend to look grey.  If you glass look perfectly made then its modern. Old glass always has bit and pieces or bubble in the glass. Also you will always see tool mark on the bowl.
20th c reproduction glass also have pontil mark.

Second, 18thc wine glass has conical foot or folded foot and foot is always much bigger than the bowl.

I have a late 18th c wine glass in my collection may be l take some pic to show you what l meant.

Hope this will help you.
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Re: Am I Georgian or a modern copy?
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2008, 09:02:28 AM »
Thank you - I knew something didnt ring true about it, and it's the foot.  All the other elements are fairly good, I've compared the colour and it's not as white as modern glass though not really the same as older glass pieces now I inspect closely.  And there are bits of grit etc in the glass.

Hey hum!

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Re: Am I Georgian or a modern copy?
« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2008, 06:50:05 PM »
Ming, would you mind taking a look at this thread I posted a little while ago, if you haven't already done so?
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,23519.0.html
It's about an engraved stem I got recently, and I'm very keen to know more about it.

I was also curious about what you said about color.  Do you mean that late 19th C glass is substantially different in color from early 20th C glass, and if so, do you know why?  I was just writing someone an email today, wondering whether sun may have turned some ABP greyish.  Sun-purpled glass sometimes looks grey before it gets purple, and I thought perhaps something about the formulas allowed it to get grey but not actually turn purple.

Comparisons with modern glass aren't always very helpful.  My modern, everyday glass is greyish, too.

Kristi


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