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Offline rbm6167

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« on: September 04, 2005, 08:06:27 PM »
I recently acquired this most beautiful decanter which is in a rich, gorgeous amber colour. I know nothing about it though I thought it might be Scandinavian by its clean lines and rather geometric look. The base has a sunken, polished pontil (photograph provided). Can anyone help with a more accurate identification, please? It is 9.5 inches tall and has a base diameter of 5 inches.
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« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2005, 09:50:36 AM »
John, you can post your picture at the Is It Whitefriars section of www.whitefriars.com, and they might be able to help.

Does anyone know any better?

Cathy.

By the way, some years ago I came across some Whitefriars plans for glasses which were proposed to be made for the Australian Parliament House early last century. They were never made because the contract apparently went to someone else - I think it was Webb, but don't quote me.

The drawings looked fairly boring to me, but would it be worth me getting copies for the public domain?


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« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2005, 10:03:48 AM »
My gut instinct was Webb, but only because of the colour and ground pontil: without an acid-etch mark on the base, probably not.

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The drawings looked fairly boring to me, but would it be worth me getting copies for the public domain?

Cathy, I'm sure WF collectors would be fascinated by these and placing them into the public domain is an unselfish action that can only be applauded :D
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« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2005, 04:36:55 PM »
Thank you all for your contributions and I shall certainly post the picture on the Whitefriars' website. I will let you know the outcome, for interests sake.
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« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2005, 05:23:09 PM »
Talking of Whitefriars decanters, have a look at this decanter which I just came across.
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I have one of these and I've always believed it to be a Georgeon Newcastle decanter.  :)


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« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2005, 05:32:04 PM »
I was reserving judgement on the amber decanter - I thought the stopper was odd for WF of this era - but I'm most likely wrong, I'm really not at all sure.
 
The clear glass one Tigerchips just put on...they've just copied the blurb form www.whitefriars.org haven't they?  lol  It's a nice decanter, but it doesn't say Whitefriars to me...it's just too fiddly!   :D
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« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2005, 05:56:25 PM »
Miller's Glass buyers' guide page 77 shows one of the clear ones Tigerchips refers to as c.1840, so very early Victorian, which would still fit the style of the piece. No maker's details in Miller's though.  Funnily enough I saw one of these for sale in Oxfam a couple of weeks ago for £20... it wasn't there for very long! (No, I didn't buy it.)


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« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2005, 06:50:45 PM »
Anne, funnily enough, that is where I got my identification from. I never trust Millers though. I just use them occasionally for reference rather than a price guide. I must have more than 27 millers books but I stopped buying them ever since I got the internet.

In one of thier books they said that a certian fish vase was made by Jules Lang.

I tried selling the so called Jules Lang bowl on an antique fair only to be told that it's actually Brockwitz.  :oops:  :oops:  :oops:

I'm having difficulty selling my Newcastle decanter at £20 even though I live near Newcastle.  :)


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« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2005, 07:05:53 PM »
Tigerchips, come to Lancaster - it'll sell there at £20 for sure! :)

BTW some of the Miller's books authors are well-respected members of this board.  8)


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« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2005, 08:19:26 PM »
Oh yes, well respected by me too. There is no doubt that I wouldn't know as much about pottery if it wasn't for Miller's.  :)

What I think is a bit odd is that they have prices based on auctions and specialists. Surely, if they were to use Internet prices it would be more accurate.

Take a look at the Chance glass hankerchief vases. Priced at £40 in Millers and i'd be lucky to get £5 for it on the net or antique stall.

I think in all honesty, these prices are useless to me. Perhaps if i moved to Lancaster i'd change my mind.  :)

As for the mistake, it is the only one I saw after reading 27 volumes 50 times. That's impressive. Perhaps, i was a bit harsh distrusting them in that respect.

Did I mention how EXTREMELY intelligent all of the Miller's authors are?  :wink:

I've been reading another link (Century glass) and Glen said that Bockwitz was also being advertised by Jules Lang & Co.

Perhaps Miller was not completely wrong afterall.  :)

 

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