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Author Topic: Help please. Is it Willie or Paul?  (Read 2341 times)

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Offline Derek

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Re: Help please. Is it Willie or Paul?
« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2008, 08:30:36 PM »
Hi all

OOPS !!

That last post had something missing - what I should have said was that I have checked a video taken at the Paul Ysart exhibition in 1992 at Broadfield House and the only lizards seen in a PY weight were of the same style as the those in the pictures posted by Daveweight. 8 minutes to go and £868 now !!

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Re: Help please. Is it Willie or Paul?
« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2008, 08:43:28 PM »
Okay, now it's sold, those who know what it really is please speak up!
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Re: Help please. Is it Willie or Paul?
« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2008, 10:30:13 PM »
My view is that it's a Willie Manson weight and may well have been from his "William Manson Paperweights" period of the early 1980s. It's certainly not a Paul Ysart one and I don't think it was made by Willie at the Harland studio. It matches well to others illustrated in books and appears to be a "Magouillat Lizard", as Derek has said, but each of those weights would normally have been signed and dated.

That there is, apparently, no signature cane is interesting. Perhaps it is possible that the central grinding had removed the identifying cane ... but if so, the cane would have been very thin to be completely removed without causing a deep hollow!

I hope that if the weight is subsequently repaired and repolished it does not alter the look of it too much.
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Re: Help please. Is it Willie or Paul?
« Reply #13 on: November 18, 2008, 10:48:27 PM »
So was the end price higher than it should be?  Seems very high for a Willie Manson weight, but then what do I know!

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Re: Help please. Is it Willie or Paul?
« Reply #14 on: November 18, 2008, 11:36:37 PM »
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So was the end price higher than it should be?
Dunno, Ian. What is the "should be" price of any item? Seriously, though, I have no idea of what the "usual" price of (an undamaged) Willie Manson Lizard weight is, or has been over the past few years.

But £890 can currently buy a single-3D-fish by Paul Ysart out of the Sweetbriar sales site.

Edited to add: And in Sweetbriar Gallery, there is also a Double Salamander (with a single flower) by Willie Manson for £380 ... and ... a Willie Manson, signed and dated Lizard with a Ladybug(bird) also for £380. But those are not Magouillat Lizards, so perhaps that makes all the difference.
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