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Offline incazzatonero

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Old scrambled Murano? ( Is every “Goldaventurin” Murano ? Like: zick-zack)!
« on: January 01, 2009, 10:46:54 PM »
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Hello and happy new year!
I have got this item from ebay.
It looks like Murano, but could it be also NEGC, or French, or Belgium, or Bohemian???
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Re: Old scrambled Murano? ( Is every “Goldaventurin” Murano ? Like: zick-zack)!
« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2009, 11:51:20 PM »
I think your weight is very nice and looks to have some age to it.  It may have just not been well-cared for though.  The base appears to have a pontil mark on it.  Is the base smooth or concave?  Also, it looks to have a word and number on the base "Pirot - 4 - " or am I just seeing things? 8)  I look forward to the replies to your posting, and Happy New Year to you too!

Lily :)

 
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Re: Old scrambled Murano? ( Is every “Goldaventurin” Murano ? Like: zick-zack)!
« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2009, 12:32:40 AM »

I assume you are looking at this portion of the bottom for a possible signature?


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Re: Old scrambled Murano? ( Is every “Goldaventurin” Murano ? Like: zick-zack)!
« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2009, 01:33:07 AM »
That's the area!  Thank you for the close-up.

Lily :)
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Re: Old scrambled Murano? ( Is every “Goldaventurin” Murano ? Like: zick-zack)!
« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2009, 02:33:59 AM »
It's an antique Venetian weight.
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Re: Old scrambled Murano? ( Is every “Goldaventurin” Murano ? Like: zick-zack)!
« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2009, 11:08:25 AM »
hello all.
there is a rough pontil mark (the base is either smooth or concave).
in my opinin the old scrambled paperweights have very seldom a signature
( above all the ordinary old murano weights except some exceptional weights).
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Re: Old scrambled Murano? ( Is every “Goldaventurin” Murano ? Like: zick-zack)!
« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2009, 04:33:51 PM »
I agree it is Venetian, Andy - but what era?  The colours are too bright for mid 19th C, in my opinion, and I thought that production of paperweights then dropped off until well into the 20th C. So are we looking at 1880s, or 1900s, or 1930s? Any thoughts?

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Re: Old scrambled Murano? ( Is every “Goldaventurin” Murano ? Like: zick-zack)!
« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2009, 03:46:55 AM »
I have always thought (with no evidence to support my views) that it was definitely not of the Bigaglia era and not as late as 1900's. So 1880 is a good a spot as any for me.
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Re: Old scrambled Murano? ( Is every “Goldaventurin” Murano ? Like: zick-zack)!
« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2009, 04:39:46 PM »
hello all.
In my opinion the brightness of the coulors say nothing about how old the item is.
Please look here at my old Murano weight of Giovanni Franchini from about 1850.
Also the kind of using the aventurin, the same rough pontil mark, the shape and feature of the weight, the pattern  seemd to me,that this item is more about 1880 then 1920 ( I know: the owner is everytime wishing an older item ;=))
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Re: Old scrambled Murano? ( Is every “Goldaventurin” Murano ? Like: zick-zack)!
« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2009, 04:42:54 PM »
last one!

Please compere the two pictures:
C144,jpg  and  IMG_0160.jpg

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