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Offline mhgcgolfclub

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Re: New website on Molineaux & Webb
« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2009, 10:13:38 AM »
Hi  Neil

Well done on your site

I have been collecting clear pressed glass for a number of years on my travels, I have up to about a 100 pieces by various makers including a few pieces by Molineaux, Webb & Co, all of mine is kept in my garden shed or loft , I still use a lot of mine around Christmas and then put back into storage.

I will post a few pictures of the items I have found to see if they are of any use for you excellent site, I also have quite a few items by Percival, Vickers and Co of Manchester

Roy

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Re: New website on Molineaux & Webb
« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2009, 10:55:28 AM »
Neil hopes these may be of interest

Molineaux1


A large heavy bowl with a faint date lozenge which looks like 13th Jan 1868, weight 2280 gm with a diameter of 12.25"

Molineaux2

A large heavy bowl with a date lozenge again not easy to read but looks like 2nd Jan 1882 , although the parcel number is a 2 but in book should be 1, weight a heavy 2230 gm with a diameter of 12"

Molineaux3

A medium size bowl with RD No 143153 28th Jan 1890, weight 1098 gm with a diameter of 9.75"

Molineaux4

Comport with a date lozenge on base but very faint could be for 1st May 1865, weight 750 gm and 6" in height, I did wonder if it could be a John Derbyshire but thought more likely Molineaux

Roy

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Re: New website on Molineaux & Webb
« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2009, 11:16:54 AM »
Hi Roy,

Thanks for those. I'll add a couple of your images to my site if that is ok. You are spot on with all the registration dates. The second one belongs to the "Duchess" set I believe. The last one is Molineaux and Webb - I have an image from a pattern book which shows that same pattern dated to 1st May 1865.

Neil

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Re: New website on Molineaux & Webb
« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2009, 11:34:28 AM »
Hi Neil

Please feel free to use any pictures , if you need further pictures please let me know, I will also check to see if I have any other items   

Roy

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Re: New website on Molineaux & Webb
« Reply #14 on: February 02, 2009, 08:43:27 AM »
Great site, very well done.  You've compiled an amazing amount of information.  Thanks for posting a link to it.

I'm curious about the comport with the red fringe.  Is that glass that's been added to a pressed piece?

Some of the engraving looks outstanding!
Kristi


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Re: New website on Molineaux & Webb
« Reply #15 on: February 02, 2009, 09:16:42 AM »
Hi Kristi,

In Roger Dodsworth's article in the Glass Circle he describes it as "frosted comport with a ruby rim and an engraved band of ornament". The one in the photograph is currently available for viewing at the Manchester Art Gallery Ancoats glass exhibition. It was bought by the Gallery in 1977 at auction from Pamela Webb, which made me think it was a one off piece, as it had been in the family for 112 years. However it also exists in the pattern book so maybe there are other examples. Did glass firms log one off pieces to their pattern books? I don't know...

Neil

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Re: New website on Molineaux & Webb
« Reply #16 on: February 02, 2009, 09:29:19 AM »
I have over the last few years seen a few comports with ruby rims, most  likely to have been Molineaux, although I did not stud them that closely as the price asked seems to be a lot more than just the normal comport

Roy

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Re: New website on Molineaux & Webb
« Reply #17 on: February 12, 2009, 08:43:35 AM »
...   Did glass firms log one off pieces to their pattern books?   ...

Neil — Yes, sometimes they did.   And sometimes they didn't.   And they put anything else in them that would be useful if available on the factory floor.   There were no rules, despite modern historians' attempts to create them in retrospect.   The Walsh pattern books, reprinted in Reynolds, contain patterns that were never made, sizes that were never made, a pressed glass flower holder made by Davidson, and boxes for sets of six made by Walsh's box supplier.   Nor were they exhaustively comprehensive.   So, for example, a blank would be made to one pattern in the book, then cut to a different pattern.

The same applies to trade catalogues.   Barbara Yates (GA Journal #2) discovered that the Manchester factories topped up gaps in their trade catalogues with offerings from their neighbours.   Keeping the business in Manchester benefited them all in the long term.   So it is quite possible that the paperweight you are looking at in your M&W catalogue could have been made by Derbyshire, and the decanter by Percival Vickers.

Bernard C.  8)
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Re: New website on Molineaux & Webb
« Reply #18 on: February 20, 2009, 07:05:36 PM »
Neil — See here for an unusual example of Georgian repro by M&W.

Let me know if you want ex-camera.

Bernard C.  8)
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Re: New website on Molineaux & Webb
« Reply #19 on: February 20, 2009, 08:20:43 PM »
Molineaux castles and much more
Please whatever Kevin it was whom I did outbid in this case, would you please mail me
Pamela
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