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Offline PAUL H

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ART GLASS VASE MDINA?
« on: March 08, 2009, 09:11:27 AM »
Does anybody recognise this vase its hand made and very mdina like in colour.. however the base doesn't look right,
I always thought mdina ground and polished their bases but I'm probably wrong, it also has a applied rim of clear glass
around the top very unusual.. the colour is blue but has some gold coloured streaks as well. Its 210mm high and has
a diameter of 95mm and weighs 500g. Could it be an early piece by the great man himself?
Thanks in advance Paul.

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Re: ART GLASS VASE MDINA?
« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2009, 09:56:36 AM »
My gut feeling is that this isn't Mdina based purely on the way the yellowy/gold has been applied - it looks to have been applied to the surface of the vase (like IOW production) whereas with Mdina the colours are within the glass - not on the surface in this way.  I've handled lots of pieces of Mdina but I'm no expert so hopefully Sue will see this thread and comment.


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Re: ART GLASS VASE MDINA?
« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2009, 11:00:14 AM »
Thanks for your reply Pip, I forgot to mention that the vase is not cased so would that rule out
Isle of Wight? I'm not to sure maybe its a one off piece from some other studio. Paul
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Re: ART GLASS VASE MDINA?
« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2009, 12:16:36 PM »
No that makes it even more likely to be IOW.
Give Ron an email www.artiusglass.co.uk He's an expert.
Mike www.abfabglass.co.uk


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Re: ART GLASS VASE MDINA?
« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2009, 12:19:56 PM »
Ron's a member here - hopefully he'll come along and contribute to this thread so we can all hear his thoughts - if not perhaps you can come back here Paul to tell us what he says? 


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Re: ART GLASS VASE MDINA?
« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2009, 08:46:41 PM »
i'm fairly confident it's not Mdina,
except for :-
The colour is right but not the application of gold etc. having said that I did see a vase a while ago that had the application on the surface the same as I.O.W
but had a Mdina sticker on it.
So having shot myself down in flames I still think its not Mdina,  :chky: :chky: :chky:
My gut feeling when I saw this and the other piece I mentioned is it looks like a cross over design. Just whistling in the wind here, but when M Harris was going from Mdina to I.O.W.
This vase has a bit of both in it.
 
Interesting to see the outcome of this
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Re: ART GLASS VASE MDINA?
« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2009, 09:37:56 PM »
Thanks Martin.. the other thing I find unusual is the applied clear glass rim is this a
known technique at Mdina or IOW?

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Re: ART GLASS VASE MDINA?
« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2009, 10:15:50 PM »
Now to prove my little grey cells haven't been working too well,
The piece i thought I saw a while ago was in fact yesterday.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=260370685712&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=016

Not sure it helps or just makes it more confusing.
By the way, I think you can make out the Mdina label on the other side of the vase

Paul the clear rim had me going, I can't remember seeing the same on a Mdina piece
I have no knowledge of I.O.W to compare.
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Re: ART GLASS VASE MDINA?
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2009, 07:42:07 AM »
To my eye neither look like Mdina. They do have some resemblance to IoW azure Azurene, although the cylinder vase looks like a second. The early IoW designs were much more Mdina than these, particularly as gold and silver leaf didn't come into use until 1978. It would be interesting to actually see the signature and the label on the ebay piece


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Re: ART GLASS VASE MDINA?
« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2009, 07:08:24 PM »
Hi Christine thats a good point concerning my cylinder vase it could be a second... there seems to be more
gold on the base than on the walls of the vase.. still its very nice anyway. In Mark Hill's excellent Mdina
book on page 89 is a vase that looks similar apart from being cased and having a flared top!!
Maybe my vase was an experimental piece that didn't quite work so did not go into production.. Its
still puzzling me about the applied glass rim. I have emailed Ron Wheeler the link to this thread so
maybe he will help solve this.
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