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Re: Burmese decorations by Thomas Webb & Sons
« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2012, 10:40:50 PM »
Jim, did you see this one?  It is marked but my pieces have the decoration with 'shadow' leaves on and this one doesn't seem to have that.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/WEBB-QUEENS-BURMESE-GLASS-ROSE-BOWL-HAND-PAINTED-/320983931489?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4abc221a61&ssPageName=RSS:B:SHOP:US:101

I have two rose bowl pictures I can put on if you need them.  One with Ivy the other with Prunus
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Re: Burmese decorations by Thomas Webb & Sons
« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2012, 11:05:54 PM »
Yes, I have seen the decoration on this and other Burmese shapes.  I believe it to be one of many modern decorations applied to antique Burmese ware.

I would like to see your rose bowls.

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Re: Burmese decorations by Thomas Webb & Sons
« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2012, 11:17:02 PM »
rose bowl with prunus I think?
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Re: Burmese decorations by Thomas Webb & Sons
« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2012, 11:21:40 PM »
rose bowl Ivy


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Re: Burmese decorations by Thomas Webb & Sons
« Reply #14 on: October 27, 2012, 12:08:49 AM »
Excellent examples of authentic Webb/Barbe decorations.  While Prunus is a commonly used name, I think the official name is "Hawthorn" which was used both by Mt. Washington and Webb. Prunus was a name coined by Ruf in their book "Fairy Lamps" with no other basis that it looked like an Apple/Fruit blossom.

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Re: Burmese decorations by Thomas Webb & Sons
« Reply #15 on: October 27, 2012, 02:45:46 PM »
Thanks  :)  I did wonder about the name as there seems to be two designs, one with more 'bunched' leaves that look slightly different to this one to me - so Hawthorn it is - thank you.
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Re: Burmese decorations by Thomas Webb & Sons
« Reply #16 on: October 27, 2012, 03:31:17 PM »
It is rare that I express an opinion without some supporting information.  I think that is a good practice for anyone who has an interest in Victorian-era art glass.  With that in mind, I thought you might find useful the information I used to support the conclusion that the name should be "Hawthorn" instead of "prunus".

Some time ago I wrote two articles for the Fairy Lamp Club Newsletter related to the name change.  The first, in 2006, was the basis for the name change.  The second article, in 2009, added additional supporting information.  I have put both articles on-line for your information.  I recommend you review them in order. 

The following links will take you to the articles:  (You may have to cut-n-paste the URL into your browser.)

http://fairy-lamp.com/Fairylamp/Prunus_Hawthorn_2006

http://fairy-lamp.com/Fairylamp/Prunus_Hawthorn_Redux_2009


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Re: Burmese decorations by Thomas Webb & Sons
« Reply #17 on: October 27, 2012, 04:20:27 PM »
fascinating!  thank you so much for linking it.
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Re: Burmese decorations by Thomas Webb & Sons
« Reply #18 on: October 27, 2012, 07:40:27 PM »
Jim, the articles are really interesting and very informative. Many thanks for your expertise and willingness to share.
regards Carol
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Re: Burmese decorations by Thomas Webb & Sons
« Reply #19 on: November 29, 2012, 09:14:05 PM »
Jim you may have seen this already but I came across it looking for enamellers for Webb
http://www.84f.com/chronology/1900s/1903%20Industry/190308jb.htm
article from
The Industry & Railways of the South West Black Country
STOURBRIDGE INDUSTRY
JULES BARBE,
Glass and China Painter, Gilder and Enameller.

on the internet by Tom Cockeram 1998


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