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Author Topic: mark of embossed 'W' or 'M'  (Read 2269 times)

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Offline Paul S.

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Re: mark of embossed 'W' or 'M'
« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2009, 06:53:24 PM »
o.k. then here we go...........
you will notice that the 'letter mark' is different on each bowl......i.e. on the brown piece the central point is level with the outer points, but on the red piece the central point only makes it half way up the letter.    sorry the pics. are a bit iffy  -  Having just looked at a variety of type faces both serif and sans serif, there are a percentage of older font styles where this is actually the case..........that the centre point of the upper case 'M' does in fact only reach half way down the height of the character, whilst all points of the 'W' in all of those particular alphabets does reach full height.    Whether this might indicate that one mark is a 'W' and the other is an 'M' is a thought  -  but might just be coincidence.
specifications are:
Brown Bowl.........11.75 cms high..........19.5cms flat to flat across the top.   both botton and top rims are quite heavily worn.

Red Bowl.........8.5 cms. high .........24 cms. at the widest part.     top rim has feint 'notched' effect.

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Re: mark of embossed 'W' or 'M'
« Reply #11 on: April 21, 2009, 07:47:33 PM »
Fascinating, I've a fair few Davidson pieces and have never noticed a mark like this on them - I'm going to re-check them all now in case I've overlooked it.

I wonder could it be that the marked ones were made for certain customers - perhaps big orders to be kept separate from other production?  Surely it would mean different moulds or mould parts for these pieces? How many different patterns are they seen in, does anyone know?

Edited to add: Chris has mentioned these in his 2002 Cloudglass Newsletter here too
http://www.cloudglass.com/NewsLetters/November2002.htm (added as a cross-reference)
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Re: mark of embossed 'W' or 'M'
« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2009, 05:14:43 AM »
I would say (IMHO) the mark is probably not an M simply because the uprights are not vertical or near vertical, even though two different punches have obviously been used in the moulds.

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Re: mark of embossed 'W' or 'M'
« Reply #13 on: April 22, 2009, 05:51:38 AM »
Hi Guys
I see this is still a mystery, not sure if it is still on the board but I raised this question in a topic will be a few years back about the W as I have a few pieces

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Re: mark of embossed 'W' or 'M'
« Reply #14 on: April 23, 2009, 07:08:31 PM »
Hi Tony,
I remember that and didn't I also at that time link to this one of my collection with the M ? Contemporary US and VERY SMALL...  :-\
http://www.pressglas-pavillon.de/deckeldosen/02963.html
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Re: mark of embossed 'W' or 'M'
« Reply #15 on: April 24, 2009, 02:14:42 PM »
For what it's worth, I've looked at the photographs of the two bowls, and note that there are slight differences between the form of the letter; I infer from this that the moulds which formed them were different. I agree with the suggestion that it is a W, not an M (and in any event, it's not the M of the Mosser glassware).

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Re: mark of embossed 'W' or 'M'
« Reply #16 on: April 24, 2009, 04:00:07 PM »
Thank you, malwodyn, this confirms my memory of Tony's thread years ago :)
Leaning very far out of the window now: how about Malaysia?
same as some French patterns copied in Taiwan bearing a T-mark within a circle? :-X
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Re: mark of embossed 'W' or 'M'
« Reply #17 on: April 24, 2009, 04:59:06 PM »
I'm more inclined to think they were made by Davidson for a specific customer, but I could be well-wrong of course. :)
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Re: mark of embossed 'W' or 'M'
« Reply #18 on: April 24, 2009, 05:00:41 PM »
Thinking out loud, would it be useful to compile a list of all known pieces with the W/M mark on them?
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Re: mark of embossed 'W' or 'M'
« Reply #19 on: April 24, 2009, 05:36:27 PM »
YES PLEASE, Anne! Splendid as always :D
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