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Author Topic: Like web bronze . Richardson's Brain glass?  (Read 1711 times)

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Offline Mike M

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Re: Like web bronze . Richardson's Brain glass?
« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2009, 10:56:41 AM »
Hi

you can find mine here

http://www.manddmoir.co.uk/phdi/p1.nsf/supppages/moir?opendocument&part=7

and then scroll down its not too different from Blair's -except for shape and level of detail in the 'brain' effect. Mine's background colour is a dark sea green not the green of Webbs - but I'm pretty certain mine's Kralik.

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Re: Like web bronze . Richardson's Brain glass?
« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2009, 08:36:17 PM »
Thanks Mike great piece, fantastic collection on your site too!
I'll keep searching as mine is slightly different to both in several ways.
If you have any more ideas later please let me know.

Does anyone know of the origins of that picture of brain glass on D Issett article (link on my previous post)? One of them is surely the closest to my vases.
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Re: Like web bronze . Richardson's Brain glass?
« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2009, 09:16:43 PM »
Oh, and Ive seen an excellent description of how they were made from this extract from G&S Thistlewood's book http://www.geocities.com/carni_glass_uk_2000/WebbBronze.html

David

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Re: Like web bronze . Richardson's Brain glass?
« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2009, 11:55:50 PM »
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Does anyone know of the origins of that picture of brain glass on D Issett article (link on my previous post)?
David, and others, please be careful when using the Issitt site(s) as:

a) the pages are noted by "page checking" routines as being "known nusiances" or simillar and

b) Mr Issitt has been known for some time as a plagiarist of many articles from books and websites and hence the text and images may not be presented in the proper context.
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Re: Like web bronze . Richardson's Brain glass?
« Reply #14 on: June 11, 2009, 08:19:37 AM »
I'm confused.  Are IMG 2887 and IMG 2879 different vases?  I see a bit of one in the background, and the texture looks a tad different maybe. 

Can you feel the pattern on the inside?  It's a very interesting surface.  This may be totally off-base, but to me it looks like the pattern was made with tools on soft glass after the surface was colored.  The Webb and Kralik pieces were made by cooling the outer surface with water then inflating the bubble slightly.  I don't see how that would work with yours.  Unless the two are the same, I don't think the pattern is molded, either.
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Re: Like web bronze . Richardson's Brain glass?
« Reply #15 on: June 11, 2009, 11:24:13 AM »
I ve just looked at my photographs again..you're right I've only uploaded two pictures of the same vase with and without flash but both bases. Ill add some more.
I've read about adding salts, plunging into water to get these patterns  but nothing yet about tools..but you could be right.
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Re: Like web bronze . Richardson's Brain glass?
« Reply #16 on: June 11, 2009, 06:01:44 PM »
Here is a photograph of the smaller vase.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/david-dj/CIMG0060.jpg

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Re: Like web bronze . Richardson's Brain glass?
« Reply #17 on: June 11, 2009, 08:13:16 PM »
That one is quite different!  That may have been done using the plunge technique...looks like it may have been reheated a bit too much on the bottom half.  How do the insides compare?
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Re: Like web bronze . Richardson's Brain glass?
« Reply #18 on: June 11, 2009, 08:35:32 PM »
I can feel the main creases in both, but indeed they are different in texture. The small one looks as if it was dipped in a thick layer of iridescent liquid, the surface lumps and indentations are smaller and smoother. The larger one is much finer with a clear deep crocodile skin like patterning.
I'm sure they were made at the same time and at the same place though as they are so similar in colour and shape.
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