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Offline BJB

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« Reply #10 on: October 07, 2005, 01:05:40 PM »
Sue,

the paperweight is really yellow and white, and quite a definite yellow, not a wishy washy colour with a pattern of bubbles around the edge, so may it be a trial piece? It is very different from the other pieces I have seen and it wasn't until I picked it up and saw the label I realised what it was :oops:

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« Reply #11 on: October 07, 2005, 02:28:37 PM »
:D:D:D
According to Elizabeth Harris, her husband was always experimenting, he lost interest in a piece as soon as it was made and just wanted to get on with the next bit, to see what he could do with it! This was one of the reasons so few bits are signed.
The motto of IoWSG is "Our best work will be done tomorrow".
I believe that on these grounds, just about all early Mdina and IoWSG can be considered "trial" and "experimental"!! No two of my Seaward pieces are remotely the same, different effects come out in each (ok, ok,  :oops::oops::oops: I've only got a very small number of them)
Cheers, Sue (M)

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« Reply #12 on: October 07, 2005, 02:48:30 PM »
Hi Sue,

Thanks for that information, it makes them all that more special.

BTW that's my motto to about the housework :lol: also never do today what you can do next week :wink:

Barbara


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« Reply #13 on: October 07, 2005, 04:24:16 PM »
Hi

That would scan - I have all these pedestal weights down as 'seaward' (book references - not just J Miller 2004 pp273 but others ref in purple and greys) but I can see that the yellow is not as Anne says anything like a seascape, scrap the books  

Yellow Aurene? I don't know - here we have a basic round weight with a pedestal, Kev has one and the book shows a blue one, Kev's has the pontil and the 'Hand Made...' so I was wrong about that (must be a real small label compared to my vase ones which are long) -

Maybe, they had 'Blue Aurene' and a 'White' but I don't know with these other colours , later they had pink and yellow and Turquoise 'Azurene' -Aurene like Azurene was a range in itself (kind of ... colour wise), like with 'Seaward' the yellow weight may have had an evocative name

I think this was a basic IOW paperweight shape and they did lots of variations - anyone got a catalogue, I see these weights from time to time in different colour ways, I am sure they kept it going for a while?

Isn't it interesting that Barbara's is signed by Harris (top money Barbara and well done!) and Kev's has the pontil - he used to sign early on before the pontil was formed, so I'd say Kev's is a little bit later - I am sure he will shoot me down with another bit of research LOL

So Kev & Sue, I stand corrected - all in the name of research LOL  :shock:  :shock:

I know a little about the Lucas connection and Alum Bay

At the moment people are still investigating early IOW styles, though Alum Bay posts (see website) it is the earlier of the two factories

Any more info on Chris Lucas - here are two vases - see how similar they are to Alum Bay pieces - he definitely set up on his own with his own label for a while

http://publish.hometown.aol.co.uk/blackcatgla/images/iow%20copy.jpg

http://publish.hometown.aol.co.uk/blackcatgla/images/im001588%20copy.jpg

And an IOW Tortoiseshell I love

(http://publish.hometown.aol.co.uk/blackcatgla/images/vase%20%20isle%20of%20wight%20copy.jpg)

Adam D555 :twisted: :twisted:
David is my Father's name, 555 is the number of man ('The Pixies'), but please call me ADAM P.


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« Reply #14 on: October 07, 2005, 04:38:49 PM »
Hi Adam,

Thats the exact same label on the base of my perfume bottle. Its been stuck in the back of the cupboard for ages as "I must find out more about it sometime....." piece :D

Barbara


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« Reply #15 on: October 07, 2005, 04:45:45 PM »
I too would love to find a bit more about this - I guess I can just email the man himself LOL

BTW I never said well done - the blue pedestal weights (signed) have a book price of up to £60.00 - a yellow one with a label must be a bit more unusual and I would get £80.00+

The sculptural block is beautiful and special; I last bought one for £60.00 without any label so yours could be £100.00

What eBay is like at moment though - aghhhhhh - I'd sell at specialist auction - or keep with the Lucas and find more bits - an Alum Bay piece?

Adam
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« Reply #16 on: October 07, 2005, 05:00:01 PM »
Quote from: "chopin-liszt"
I was sure the glassmaker of Glory Art Glass was named in the site :?:?:?

edited again:- Just checked the site. The dog appears to be called Oscar, but can't find the glassmaker's name!

Glassmaker is Martin Evans   :D  He sells some of his stuff on ebay.  ID is martinstudio60  Has a good 'Me' page.  :D

HTH HAND :wink:

Leni
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« Reply #17 on: October 07, 2005, 05:27:04 PM »
Hi Adam,

The trouble with Ebay is it is chock full or cheap rubbish or things that aren't what they claim to be, so the unusual or the more specialist seem to struggle. I sold a blue Aurene bowl a couple of months ago and only got £20.00 for it, and it had its lable and the flame gather, so I'm just putting on "safe" pieces that I can start at £4.00 and any more is a bonus :cry:

I don't know of any specialist auctions for Isle of Wight glass (or for any more modern glass come to think of it), but I would be willing to sell it for less than you quoted to a collector who I know would treasure it and also use it for further research. Would the Isle of Wight collectors club be interested do you think?

Barbara


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« Reply #18 on: October 07, 2005, 07:27:41 PM »
I agree Barbara

Unless it's W/F or Troika good rare stuff like yours does get lost

There is a trend thing though as well - I sold a Blue Azurene 1990s vase for £65.00 the other month - iridized, silver and gold foil is all the rage with most companies IOW included

You can try an auction house - they are nice bits and you would be surprised with that signature on the round weight, the labels and the block piece being rarer, how much they could go for sold together at a 'Decorative Arts' auction - but it's a hassle finding the right one and all the charges, etc.

But ref eBay - these stand out more than a Blue Aurene vase - the 'Harris' sig is the buss and the block sculptural piece may surprise you - get good photos - good photos sell items

I mean they would really stick out from the norm - I like to list in 'dated glass 50s - 70s' not IOW as this would attract casual browsers of retro glass - IOW collectors would pick up from a search anyhow

I guess it all depends on how much you paid in a way, you may not get £80.00 for a piece but if you paid £10.00 and get £45.00 it's a good day I always say, especially if you don't like them that much

Always a pleasure

Adam D555
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« Reply #19 on: October 08, 2005, 12:46:34 AM »
Hello,

I've just finished doing some editing and thought I'd give the board a look.

Firstly, I have a p/w of the same shape (with the pedestal foot/base). It is inscribed Micheal Harris over Isle of Wight. Up-side-down below these marks is an oblong paper label in plain white with black writing. There is a lot of wear to this label but it clearly says 'Isle of Wight' below what appears to be 'Hand Made'. There is no impressed pontil. The colours are centrally, vermillion red, syurrounded by swirls of yellow and creamy biege. Early I would suggest.

So where does that take us?

BTW Adam I'd be interested to know what books you have as IoW references other than the J. Miller 2004.

Personally, I have never been a fan of information given in the large price guides, since I am aware of how the information can be put together. Try looking at the new J. Miller books on 'Art Nouveau' and 'Arts and Crafts'. Sadly, the inaccuracies on British glass in each have to be seen to be believed! At least the series of specialised guides that Miller's produced were written by people who had a direct interest and personal knowledge on whichever subject. Oh dear, I seem to be getting contentious, perhaps I better shut up :shock:  

Nigel :)

 

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