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Offline lhazeldahl

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« on: October 12, 2005, 10:10:46 PM »
Hello,
I know that this is off topic, and I apologize for getting this started.  

I want to answer Leni and Sue, it really tickles me that you are interested in my very humble roots.  So here are the other pics, of beadwork,etc.  All the beads are glass, the hair is a clipping from somewhere in Grandma Bushes past.  (blonde?)

The "shakers" were made by my great uncle from gourds, my husband put the finish on them.  The dish of crystals also belonged to her, I found them in her sewing box.  

The very odd hat vase was also hers, it seems so out of place.  Maybe it was a gift, as they were very poor.  Can you tell me anything about it?  I will be happy to post more pics if needed.

The one crystal at the 7o'clock position, surrounded by the arrow points, is my favorite, it has been held and rubbed, it just feels special.

Thank you so very much for your patience and interest, I have loved showing you this.  When I get the other pics from my sister, the thief!!, I will post them, all the regalia and costumes at the pow wows (dances) are awsome.  

Linda   (er, that is if I don't get scolded for Off Topic posting)


http://tinypic.com/ehno6w.jpg  moccassins
http://tinypic.com/eiqn93.jpg    moccassins
http://tinypic.com/ehnod3.jpg    moccassins
http://tinypic.com/eiqr8p.jpg     beadwork
http://tinypic.com/eiqlgy.jpg     beadwork
http://tinypic.com/eiqo7a.jpg    Grandma  
http://tinypic.com/eiqolk.jpg     shakers
http://tinypic.com/eiryq8.jpg    crystles
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« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2005, 10:24:14 PM »
Wow! :shock:  Thanks so much for sharing your family history with us in this way, Linda!   :D  As we said before, those beads are glass so you are NOT off-topic at all!  

I am intrigued by the blonde hair!  Was it a 'scalp' grandma took?  :shock:  :lol:

Ooops! :oops:  Sorry! :oops:  I hope that wasn't non-PC! :oops:  :roll:  

Can't wait to see the other pics!  Many thanks again  :D

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« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2005, 10:36:47 PM »
Hey,

Hi, Leni.  I know there was a hush-hush from any elders when we asked about the lock of hair.  In my "elder" years now, I look back and wonder if it was a blond (or redheaded) baby.  She, and all the women, helped with birthings, but it will remain a mystery I suppose.  Any one's secrets are theirs to keep, and I wish I hadn't questioned, you know?  I'm sure she forgives me, because I know she has looked upon me and protected me many times thru out my life, she has been gone over 30 years, now.  She always smelled of garlic, always, and I swear I can feel (and smell) her presence from time to time.

Have a good evening, It's 5:30 here,
Linda
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« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2005, 03:32:35 AM »
Thank you for sharing this with us, Linda! It genuinely is nice to get to know you more. Isn't your grandmother beautiful?

Trying to get back on topic, do you know where the glass beads would have been made? Are they European?

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« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2005, 05:32:46 AM »
Hello, again,

I was aware that there was a sort of communal gathering for the beading and weaving, and whatever work the women did.  I think that also there was a central type of depository, (for want of a better word)for their supplies.  If these beads are old enough, I suppose they would be European,  there was alot of trade going on, way back in time.  The picture is from the summer of 1915, and I think by then there was a trading post.

Most of my kin would not talk too much of their Native American roots, and quite alot would deny it.  Reminds me of the country song; "I was country when country wasn't cool".  It wasn't untill the kids began going to college on government money, that our family gatherings renewed some of the old traditions.  The story telling and teaching became more open and public.

You see, I never saw a reservation myself.  The pictures that I did see were far removed from the romantic notion of the Native American heritage.  What I saw was abject poverty.  As I grew older and was exposed to the renewal of some of the "old ways" I began to see a deeply spiritual people, these wonderfully proud kinfolk of mine.

And, Oh, my gosh, the Pow Wow's are so richly rewarding!  The old timers just glow.  

I started researching the moccassins last year, and find that just the design alone tell a story.  The story in these designs that I have are of Christianity coming into a life, to be brief.

Again, thanks for your interest and please know I am proud to know you..also.

Linda
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« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2005, 08:49:54 AM »
:D:D:D
Thanks so-ooo much for sharing this with us!

Fascinating that the beadwork describes, what was at the time, contemporary events rather than traditional!

It's also frustrating and sad that history gets lost because of some perceived embarassment - a lot of mine has vanished that way, because of a baby being born "on the other side of the blanket" (out of wedlock).

It's up to us "oldies" now to make sure this does not happen to future generations!
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« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2005, 09:28:21 AM »
Quote from: "chopin-liszt"
It's also frustrating and sad that history gets lost because of some perceived embarassment - a lot of mine has vanished that way, because of a baby being born "on the other side of the blanket" (out of wedlock).

It's up to us "oldies" now to make sure this does not happen to future generations!

I second that - from personal experience!    :oops: :cry:  :oops:   :roll:

I am very happy that my beautiful American daughter-in-law, whom I always describe as three-quarters Mexican, actually has some Native American ancestry on that side!  Must ask her to research that, now she is catching my interest in Family History!   :D

I am intrigued by the beads being European, though I don't know where I thought they might have come from if not Europe!  :roll:  

Was there any history of glass-making in Native American culture?  I know there was use of precious stones and metals, but did they ever make glass, or use enamelling?  

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« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2005, 01:03:21 PM »
Quote from: "Leni"

I am intrigued by the beads being European, though I don't know where I thought they might have come from if not Europe!  :roll:  

Was there any history of glass-making in Native American culture?  I know there was use of precious stones and metals, but did they ever make glass, or use enamelling?  

Leni


Leni, I'm just wondering how old the Mexican glass industry is, and what industries would have been brought over by the conquistadors. Hmm.

Quote from: "chopin-liszt"

It's also frustrating and sad that history gets lost because of some perceived embarassment - a lot of mine has vanished that way, because of a baby being born "on the other side of the blanket" (out of wedlock).


Ah, yes. My father's grandfather was said to be German, but he was _very_ dark. So dark that the local kids used to tease my father that his grandfather was a "blackfella" (no disrespect, this is what they called aboriginal people). I don't know what the story was, it might be imagination on my part, but can't help but wonder. Maybe he was Indian or Afghani, who knows.

Cheers,
Cathy.


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« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2005, 02:21:14 PM »
In case it's of any interest with all this wonderful genealogical info, there is a massive network of family history sites if you want to find out more. A good place to start is Rootsweb http://www.rootsweb.com which has loads of info as well as message boards, lists, etc about all aspects of family history, surnames, occupations etc. There is also sites for those who are just seeking British Ancestry:  Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk and British-Genealogy http://www.british-genealogy.com.

As an example, and to keep the glass connection, this is a thread about Sunderland glassmakers: http://www.british-genealogy.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5567

and there is a message board all about Glass and Crystal makers here:
http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=topics.occupations.glasscrystal

Beware though, genealogy is just as addictive as Glass! (speaking from experience having been hooked on gen for almost as long as I've been hooked on glass!).  :roll:  :lol:


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« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2005, 04:23:06 PM »
Quote from: "Anne"
Beware though, genealogy is just as addictive as Glass! (speaking from experience having been hooked on gen for almost as long as I've been hooked on glass!).  :roll:  :lol:

I've been hooked on genealogy for longer!   :lol:

Thanks for all those site addresses!   :shock:

I have a family tree going back to the 1400's on www.genesreunited.com and have found many relatives from all over the world through that site!  Would be interesting to find we were related somewhere back when eh, Anne?  :wink:  :lol:

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