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Author Topic: I.d please,Walsh-Walsh maybe?  (Read 1033 times)

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Offline keith

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Re: I.d please,Walsh-Walsh maybe?
« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2009, 02:20:51 PM »
Many, many thanks to every one,it seems I have my first piece of Walsh after all,most chuffed,Keith.

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Re: I.d please,Walsh-Walsh maybe?
« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2009, 02:35:18 PM »
Thanks Bernard...... That explanation helps....

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Re: I.d please,Walsh-Walsh maybe?
« Reply #12 on: August 14, 2009, 06:15:08 AM »
Keith & Craig — Thanks for inspiring me to look this up.   A closer look at Book 9 shows that the Northwood mould found its way to Fenton, who did a short run of reproductions around 1978–85, so the mould may still be in their store.

Here is an example of a similarly sized Northwood Opaline Brocade item to yours, Keith, illustrating the major differences — note:
  • the vertical completeness of the pattern, probably impossible with Walsh Opaline Brocade of this size,
  • the pattern stopping abruptly at the edge of the base, rather than continuing down to the pontil mark, and
  • the rim crimp — Walsh's hand crimp would have been slightly finer and slightly lop-sided.

Also here is a larger example of the Northwood production, showing that the pattern was being stretched beyond its best.

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Re: I.d please,Walsh-Walsh maybe?
« Reply #13 on: August 14, 2009, 07:06:58 AM »
Bernard,

Thanks for posting the additional info and links... the differences you are describing are quite pronounced when seen in examples like that.....

Thanks again,  Craig
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Re: I.d please,Walsh-Walsh maybe?
« Reply #14 on: August 14, 2009, 11:59:32 AM »
Here is a "brocade-like" pattern that is neither I don't think

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Re: I.d please,Walsh-Walsh maybe?
« Reply #15 on: August 14, 2009, 05:16:37 PM »
Christine — Yes, there is another on eBay at the moment in much the same colour which is nearly but not quite Brocade.   Inspired by Walsh and Northwood, perhaps?

And you've hit on a puzzle.   Was the pattern called Opaline Brocade or just Brocade?   Bill Heacock queried this 22 years ago, and I don't think we're any the wiser now.

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Re: I.d please,Walsh-Walsh maybe?
« Reply #16 on: August 14, 2009, 05:47:38 PM »
That also  goes for me,thanks Bernard,Keith.

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Re: I.d please,Walsh-Walsh maybe?
« Reply #17 on: August 14, 2009, 08:51:42 PM »
Excuse the strange double negative; I was in a rush.

Keith's isn't truly opaline though (at least it doesn't appear so), as the pattern isn't highlighted by reheating, just by the iridescence. I would say perhaps there was Brocade and Opaline brocade.

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« Reply #18 on: August 15, 2009, 01:05:26 AM »
Christine — precisely.   But we are not talking logic here, but what Lewis John Murray and Harry Northwood actually called the pattern, quite different.

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