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Author Topic: 2 more for ID...I do not even know where to begin?  (Read 1743 times)

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Offline Alton11

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2 more for ID...I do not even know where to begin?
« on: September 20, 2009, 03:04:48 AM »
both are very heavy for there sizes( 3.25 in high ), and second one ( 3rd pic )has almost no curve from base to point. Interiors looks to be made of similar material?

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Re: 2 more for ID...I do not even know where to begin?
« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2009, 09:14:16 PM »
Top one is Japanese.
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Re: 2 more for ID...I do not even know where to begin?
« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2009, 11:54:34 AM »
That's interesting. I think Cyril Manley in his book on Victorian glass cites this as being Stevens and Williams. I have one of these PW and have just read Cyril's book on holiday but need to get a magnifying glass on the page in question. I'm not saying he's right though...

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Re: 2 more for ID...I do not even know where to begin?
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2009, 01:02:24 PM »
Hi, there are several makers who have made this type of "fat" flowers, I have seen both Swedish and Japanese
paperweights of this design.

The reason I landed on Japanese for this one was the flowerpot which looks like it contains
canes of a type often found in paperweights marketed as "Lenwile Glass, Ardalt, Japan".

The "fat" flower paperweights from Japan are often marked "Original Lutetian Glass"
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Re: 2 more for ID...I do not even know where to begin?
« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2009, 02:06:26 PM »
I don't think they're canes. I think they're frit.

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Re: 2 more for ID...I do not even know where to begin?
« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2009, 06:40:26 PM »
Cyril definitely says Stevens and Williams, wonder where he got that from? He does have some errors in his book though

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Re: 2 more for ID...I do not even know where to begin?
« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2009, 05:04:34 AM »
any chance of posting a picture for comparison?

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Re: 2 more for ID...I do not even know where to begin?
« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2009, 06:45:24 AM »
It's here. I know it says the photos have gone, but they haven't, just the thumbnails (I think Photobucket messed), so click on the top row of error messages

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Re: 2 more for ID...I do not even know where to begin?
« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2009, 01:22:13 PM »
A google search yields few results for lutetian glass, mostly ended ebay auctions.

This one is similar, altho the colors are off (google buffered page).

I have saved some images with lables from previous eBay listsing but can't post them due to copyright.

The Lutetian Glass paperweights usually have a frit flowerpot, I thought the flowerpot in the picture looked like Ardalt canes
but the picture isn't clear enough to be sure - the colors appear similar to the usual Ardalt colors.

I have found very little on the makers of these (the Japanese) weights online.
 
A caveat tho - this flower arrangement is a fairly common theme in paperweights, as I mentioned earlier I see it frequently in Swedish
paperweights, usually at tradera.se, a Swedish subsidiary of eBay.

It is quite possible that a British maker made similar weights
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