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Re: Unmarked vase of classical form
« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2009, 03:49:28 PM »
You might try contacting the author of this website. There is contact info there. It is at the end of the paragraph to the right of the blue heart and vine image on the home page.

http://sites.google.com/a/imperialartglass.com/www/home

The ring wear on the underside of the piece that appears in the last image gives the appearance that it may have some age to it.  The clean pontil, although not completely conclusive would, combined with the wear underfoot, tend to lead me away from contemporary studio glass. It is often difficult to tell from pics.

I have done some research, which is certainly not conclusive because my knowledge level of it is fairly limited, but it could possibly be a piece of Imperial art glass. The glass bears a resemblance to a version of the Monochromatic Lead Lustre line. Your location in New York is also geographically good, as Imperial was located in Ohio. Additionally, the lack of a bunch of other contemporary glass at the estate sale would have me feeling good also.

The shape is quite similar to a couple of examples I found of Imperial. The size and glass weight also seem to fall in line with examples I have seen at shows and such.

I know that this type of glass is also produced by contemporary companies, but the modern versions I have seen are typically thin glass, larger pieces, with ground tops and no pontils..... or occasionally rough finished pontils which are snapped and flamed to get rid of sharp edges.....  but not ground such as this.

I think sending them an email and asking if you can send images would be worth while... It appears to be a nice piece of glass. It is tough to tell without handling it, but I would probably have spent $40 on it also... even if the wife was not in agreement  ;D.  Sometimes you just have to listen to the little voice.... every time I do, it has paid of greatly.....

Let us know what they say if you do contact them. 

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Re: Unmarked vase of classical form
« Reply #11 on: October 28, 2009, 06:16:26 PM »
Post these photos to the eBay Glass Chat Board & address it to carma48...tell him Ken sent you. Thats Carl Burns, IG reference author & although primarily Carnival he knows IG freehand art glass inside & out as good as anyone you'll find. Ken

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Re: Unmarked vase of classical form
« Reply #12 on: October 28, 2009, 06:31:59 PM »
I also thought the vase resembled some that were made by Imperial glass. Alfredo has some 1920s ones on his site. My question about IG vases of this type is if they were all marked IG, or if there were some that were not.
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Re: Unmarked vase of classical form
« Reply #13 on: October 28, 2009, 09:49:09 PM »
The true freehand pieces (not the Jewels line) had simple labels. Unfortunately we are dealing with photos not the piece in our hands. On my monitor I see a sudden color transformation which you usually do not normally see in Lead Lustre, but it could be the way the sun is hitting it. One of the problems concerns the Leaf & Vine design as there was a highly (to say the least) talented blower (in the late 80's through late 90's) in NW Ohio that was producing absolutely exact (clear to the white interiors) copies, same designs, same shapes, same weight in that line & was making them on order for rather shady dealers who were passing them off when the prices were up back then. You really had to debate whether you had a legit one in your hands it was that good. Many of them ended up as lamp bases that were claimed to be Durand. Not a bad suggestion by Craig though & I may be in for a suprise as I didn't peg it as Lead Lustre, but there is a distinct possibility since these were hand made & varied in shape & color. Ken

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Re: Unmarked vase of classical form
« Reply #14 on: October 29, 2009, 12:58:14 AM »
Ken,

I am a little concerned with the color change also, but figured it is possible it is due to lighting and the images. I wish I were holding the glass....  but we shall see. The shape is a lot of what got me going in that direction, and some of the examples of monochromatic lead lustre in the darker color do show quite a bit of color variation on the surface under certain lighting.....

We'll see.....

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Re: Unmarked vase of classical form
« Reply #15 on: October 29, 2009, 01:33:46 AM »
Thanks to everyone!  I have contacted Ernie this evening and will post his verdict as soon as it come in.

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Re: Unmarked vase of classical form
« Reply #16 on: October 29, 2009, 03:48:07 AM »
Mystery solved!  The gentleman who runs the site imperialartglass.com informs me that this is an Imperial Lead Lustre Vase, shape #417, color/decoration #10. 

Thanks to all who so generously contributed their time and expertise to help identify this vase.

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Re: Unmarked vase of classical form
« Reply #17 on: October 29, 2009, 04:03:46 AM »
Congrats on the find... and the buy......  a steal of a deal at $40.... Something I would personally mention to the wife... again, and again, and again, and again... Well you get the idea.   >:D >:D

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Re: Unmarked vase of classical form
« Reply #18 on: October 29, 2009, 06:25:18 AM »
Well you can thank Craig for that one & congrats on a good solid find at $40. Color graduation sure fooled me because when I compared it with the #10 color decoration from the site the graduation is not nearly as severe/noticeable as the one you have, but the reflection from the sun threw me for a loop. Ken

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