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« on: October 31, 2009, 10:11:06 PM » |
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I own a whitefriars paperweight model PB300 (the nice bouquet millefiori) on a light blue ground with a 1977 signature cane. I am sure that I read somewhere that this model was not a limited edition. However, my weight has a number engraved on the underside (108). Can anyone tell me what this number means? I am curious.
I did not post a picture of it but if it helps I will do so.
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« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2009, 11:01:41 PM » |
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Hi A photograph would be useful, but is it possible that this is one of the Smithsonian Institute weights which was a limited edition of 200 produced in 1977 I have not got one in my collection but there are pictures in the books. Another thought is that someone has converted an "S" to "108".  Roy |
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« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2009, 11:48:54 PM » |
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Many thanks for the speedy reply, Roy. I will try and post pictures tomorrow.
Actually I did not even know that there were Whitefriars seconds out there (I have never seen one before but my experience/knowledge is very limited to say the least).
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« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2009, 09:06:52 PM » |
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Hi Roy,
Here are the pictures. When I took them, I realised that the number may well be 106 rather than 108. However, I suppose that it makes little difference.
Please tell me what you think. In any event, I think that it is a truly lovely weight.
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« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2009, 10:57:33 PM » |
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Hi Sophie
Having checked my weights, I find that I do have a similar weight to yours.
My weight is also on a blue ground but with a red rose in the centre and is dated 1979 and without the number.
Forget about my thoughts of an "S" weight being changed that is obviously a correct 106 engraving.
I can't find the info on the Smithsonian weight at the moment but I will keep looking
It may have been an Ebay sale which I failed to get !!!
Roy
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« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2009, 07:11:35 AM » |
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Hi i believe thats the Whitefriars Clichy rose Brian Slingsby and Ray Anneberg are the people for more info on that
as Ray was the cane maker and Brian the technical manager , i think they will both be at Birmingham National Glass Fair Sunday nov15th . Brian made a nice video or rare canes and weights .
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« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2009, 03:25:46 PM » |
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Hi Ray, Hi John, Many thanks for your messages. To John: This is good to know. I was intending to go to the Birmingham Glass Fair anyway. I will try and show the weight to either Ray Annenberg or Brian Slingsby if they are there. I will report the answer to this thread. To Roy: Hum, yes, it was an Ebay sale... I had been looking for (i.e. lusting after) this weight since I started collecting. Anyway, some you win, some you loose  SophieB |
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« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2009, 04:51:22 PM » |
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Hi Sophie
Did your weight come from the US??
The video sounds interesting as I have nearly all the Whitefriars weights and most of the canes.
I wonder how one gets a copy?
Roy
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« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2009, 05:55:22 PM » |
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Talk sweet to Brian you could not find a nicer man .  |
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« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2009, 06:15:14 PM » |
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Roy, Yes, my weight comes from the US (so it would tie in with your Smithsonian theory). It looks as if I did beat you to it . In my excuse, this is my ONLY whitefriars paperweight. So, you cannot begrudged me this single weight  If you wish, I will ask Brian Slingsby about the video at the glass fair. SophieB |
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« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2009, 10:10:30 PM » |
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That would be very nice of you. I have been helping Brian prepare a photographic record of Whitefriars weights for the Northern Paperweight Group
Roy
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« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2009, 10:31:32 PM » |
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Will do.
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« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2009, 11:30:33 AM » |
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Sophie
Roy's recollection is quite correct (and might arise from an eBay item that we duelled over late in 2006.)
Your's is one of a limited edition of 200 "..hand made in full English crystal by the craftsmen of Whitefriars for the Smithsonian Institution in 1977" The certificate accompanying the one shown below (#85) [**] attributes the design to Geoffrey Baxter.
It is indeed a beautiful example of the style. Enjoy it!!
[**] Mod: Images removed as they were eBay photos used, inadvertently, without permission.
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« Reply #13 on: November 03, 2009, 12:38:30 PM » |
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Peter, Many thanks for all this. I now know for sure what my weight is. And I agree wholeheartedly that it is a beautiful weight. And I am also relieved that the record is put straight: Roy and I did not fight over my weight after all.  Thanks again, SophieB |
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« Reply #14 on: November 03, 2009, 01:45:38 PM » |
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Hi Peter
Well done with your input, I knew I had seen it somewhere and had forgotten your disgaceful behavior in outbidding me for the weight!!!
Best wishes
Roy
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