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Author Topic: Glass bowl unknown maker - ID = Fenton using Verlys mould  (Read 3764 times)

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Offline msiscoe

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Glass bowl unknown maker - ID = Fenton using Verlys mould
« on: November 03, 2009, 07:21:15 PM »
Hello, this bowl is listed as either Lalique or Consolidated Glass. Can anyone identify the maker please?

Many thanks!

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Re: Glass bowl unknown maker
« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2009, 05:16:34 AM »
Its neither Phoenix or Lalique in any of my references. $200 starting bid with a reserve & a $39 standard flat rate shipping fee...you gotta be kidding me.

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Re: Glass bowl unknown maker
« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2009, 10:08:57 AM »
It's a Verlys pattern, I believe this was a US only design, introduced sometime between 1938 and 1940. However the finishing on this example doesn't look typical for Verlys, this and the lack of a mark suggests it's probably a piece produced by Heisey in the mid 1950s when the moulds were loaned to them. It could even be more recent Fenton production as I believe they now own the Verlys of America moulds.

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Re: Glass bowl unknown maker
« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2009, 05:38:21 PM »
Hello,

The seller has informed me that she found a very faint "Fenton" mark on the base. Obviously, one of the Verlys molds Fenton ended up with.

Thanks everyone for your input and best regards.

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Re: Glass bowl unknown maker - ID = Fenton using Verlys mould
« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2009, 11:38:44 PM »
I've amended the subject to attract the attention of James Measell, Fenton archivist, who visits the board in the hope he may be able to tell us more.
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Re: Glass bowl unknown maker - ID = Fenton using Verlys mould
« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2009, 11:45:14 PM »
Hello,

The seller has contacted me asking when this might have been made. I presume after 1966, when Fenton acquired the Verlys molds.

Any thoughts?

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Re: Glass bowl unknown maker - ID = Fenton using Verlys mould
« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2009, 12:24:44 AM »
Its after 1970...thats when Fenton started signing their production. I may have been a bit hard on the seller earlier, however you may wish to convey that a fellow poster believes that a far more realistic price is in line rather than a $200 starting bid with a reserve. Frankly its probably a $50 piece at best & I mean at best (it is not rare & it is a reproduction) so the opening bid of $200 coupled with a reserve may present a serious problem in it generating any interest from the Fenton crowd. If it were a good Lalique piece I could perhaps see the opening bid coupled with a reserve. There is a Yahoo Fenton group which is quite large & you might direct the seller there to get a more precise date although not certain its necessary to date it.  

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Re: Glass bowl unknown maker - ID = Fenton using Verlys mould
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2009, 11:31:10 AM »
Just checked Verlys of America by Carole & Wayne McPeek; the original Verlys name for this pattern was 'Crysanthemum Bowl', the popular/ collectors name is given as 'Casket'. Pattern was introduced in 1939.

 

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