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« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2005, 08:04:02 PM »
I totally agree with comments reference too quick an attribution to Pirelli or indeed Murano, on my trips to Milan I often see lamp-workers making animals by the Canal Region just down from Porta Genova - this is an antiques and collectables part of Milan so it makes sense

I think tentative attribution or putting up for examination while we wait for examples with actual labels as some say is all we can do, in this case scenario we can study similarities and look at any provenance - see Frank's excellent post

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I will be adding many more examples to my Pirelli pages and also pages of other animals to try and get identification


In the case of the items I linked to - we know the Scottie is Pirelli as it is seen with the label on the website, I purchased about 15 other pieces with it from my source, a collector buyer called Elspeth based in the Barras area of Glasgow who assured me the woman who sold her all the items together (there where many more I did not buy) were all collected in her childhood and she remembered peeling the Pirelli labels off - a tall story? perhaps and it can never be taken as proof in place of an actual label, but what I did like was the similarity in all the pieces to the Scottie and elephants etc. here is the smaller donkey I was talking about

http://publish.hometown.aol.co.uk/blackcatgla/images/pird2.jpg

I cannot give it a 100% but there is enough there to give me say 80%, in this sense I should say I attribute to or ‘think is’ - I therefore also say apart from the Scottie in my previous listing I think the other pieces are probably Pirelli - this is how I would list on eBay rather than give a 100% to pump up sales beacuse of similarities

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« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2005, 08:38:43 PM »
Just wanted to add that not having surfed eBay or other auction sites for a while, I see Pirelli with label or a good attribution is going for huge sums of money

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« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2005, 10:46:01 PM »
The Guinness Toucans went for the right price, the others are just madness!

Two over eager buyers!
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« Reply #13 on: November 03, 2005, 11:54:57 PM »
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Two over eager buyers!

Or perhaps just very keen bidders, with good reasons for paying more than other folk would bid? (Like me with some of my paperweight bids - if there is something that fills a gap or adds to the history ... the moths escape from my wallet  :!: )
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« Reply #14 on: November 03, 2005, 11:58:41 PM »
True Kevin - but these will turn up again and again. The Toucans are fairly frequent though the second scarcest of the set but they have the Guinness market and that is BIG.
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« Reply #15 on: November 07, 2005, 08:05:33 PM »
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Pirelli is one example and lampwork figures are the only product they manufactured.


Hi Frank - excuse my ignorance, I got a Pirelli paperweight in a mixed lot at auction with a bunch of Strathearn weights which I've recently sold on ebay, (and a load I can't attribute myself as they aren't labelled, though they look awfully like Strathearn also) - when you say they were the only products they manufactured, was this before they bought-out Strathearn?

I'm trying to get a handle on whether Pirelli weights are all that collectible, as I haven't bothered listing it yet!

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« Reply #16 on: November 07, 2005, 08:19:49 PM »
Pirelli paperweights are Vasart or Strathearn paperweights with a Pirelli retail label on. As the Pirelli labels are not found that often it can give a slight edge over the exact same weight with a Vasart or Strathearn label.

Pirelli did not buy out Strathearn but the MD of Pirelli was also a director of Vasart from 1956 on. Teachers bought Vasart in 1964 and set up a new glassworks at Crieff with the Strathearn name. It was the same people making the glass and it is virtually impossible to identify if some items were Strathearn or Vasart - these are generally referred to as transitional for the period 1956-1970. The only difference immediately felt was the kilns being fired by Propane gas at Strathearn. Later new colours and designs were introduced.

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« Reply #17 on: November 08, 2005, 08:51:47 AM »
Ref the earlier discussion, another set of birds on a branch has shown up on eBay just days after that record breaking price - hopefully a few more sets turn up then everyone can have one :shock:  There are not many collecting Pirelli lampwork animals, probably <10, though the number seems to be growing.
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