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PéDéBé Information on this company? Wanted Please
« on: December 14, 2009, 05:19:51 PM »
I was provided images of labels as part of a large group of images that were forwarded to me for use on a website. I came across a label on a piece of glass which is in the same shape as the Franz Welz Klostergrab label. The label reads "PéDéBé" It is on a piece of satin finish, horizontally angled, striated pink tone glass. A search on the internet revealed only a reference to an English company and showed an image of a piece of glass appearing to be Czech in origin and bearing an incredibly strong resemblance to a decor  by Welz.

I am wondering if anyone can provide information on the company? The glass the label is on appears to be be Czech, and the label shape on the glass is found with not only the FWK initials, but also with "Astglas" and also "Made in Czechoslovakia". It appears the label shape is generic to a possibly Bohemian label producer in the 1920's or so.

The is no information in Ivo's book that I could find and it is the first time I have come across the name.

Can anyone shed some light on this name please.

Thanks in advance for any help.

Craig
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Re: PéDéBé Information on this company? Wanted Please
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2009, 05:35:18 PM »
Hi Craig,
With the accented e's, could this be possibly a French/francophone importers label?
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Re: PéDéBé Information on this company? Wanted Please
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2009, 07:39:27 PM »
Marcus, I considered that as a possibility.

Frank, The egg shape is the piece I saw, and it bears a very strong resemblance to a Welz decor with the FWK label attached. As far as the ebay seller goes, the use of the term as a decor is incorrect, as I have an image of the label on a completely different decor... Their details are, on many occasions, not the most accurate....

Although the label I am showing appears embossed, the one on the Kralik piece that you linked to appears more like the FWK label and the others I have seen with the same shape and border design.

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« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2009, 01:07:44 PM »
Hi Craig,
I have asked a French colleague if this mark is known to them. Will let you know when they respond.
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Re: PéDéBé Information on this company? Wanted Please
« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2009, 02:36:28 PM »
Thank you very much Marcus. I appreciate the help.

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Re: PéDéBé Information on this company? Wanted Please
« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2009, 05:04:25 PM »
HIGHLY unlikely that it would be French  :24: - I'd sooner look at Holland, Germany or Belgium.

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Re: PéDéBé Information on this company? Wanted Please
« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2009, 05:22:37 PM »
I translated the page....  That may be a very good suggestion.....

I couldn't figure out what the ROFL was for until I read the translation....

Would put a strong doubt on a French origin....  Although I would guess whoever it was, probably did not export much into France either.....   ;D

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Re: PéDéBé Information on this company? Wanted Please
« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2009, 06:01:05 PM »
Interesting though that the Dutch page gave an accent free version that presumably was a variant for the British market. Most hits on the word were Holland based too.
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Re: PéDéBé Information on this company? Wanted Please
« Reply #9 on: December 16, 2009, 07:34:27 PM »
There was a company selling kitchen equipment (coffee grinders and such) under the name of PéDé in the thirties, and there are many instances of brand names composed of written out acronyms in that time. And something like PéDéBé (PDB) could well be something like Peter De Bie or Paul De Booys ot Piet de Boef.  Looking at PDB in Dutch will get you Praktijkdiploma Boekhouden (Practical bookkeeping) and Plaagdierbestrijding (pest control)  and regional darts organisation De Peel - so no lack of options.

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