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Offline EGC

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Schneider Piece?
« on: December 21, 2009, 06:18:06 PM »
Hello all:

I'm new at the forum, i found it trying to know if a piece of glass i have is an schneider or not.

Well as you can see in the pictures, the vase or bowl is wearing an "A.Delatte" signature on cameo, but i think this is not authentic.
On the bottom it has also the "Candy cane" o Berlingot mark used by Schneider.

Any clue? All the opinions will be welcome.

Thanks in advance.

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Offline malwodyn

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Re: Schneider Piece?
« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2009, 09:23:59 PM »
Welcome to the Board!  Your piece looks nice!  What makes you doubt the A. Delatte signature? & can you tell us anything more about the piece - how long you've had it, where you got it, etc.

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Re: Schneider Piece?
« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2009, 09:40:24 PM »
Hello malwodyn:

Many thanks for answering.

Well, all the Delatte signatures i have seen are loking different, the A and D are linked, and the "L" longer in the lower part...as you can see here:
http://www.great-glass.co.uk/glass%20notes/markd-h.htm
And here:
http://www.stylendesign.co.uk/guidepages/marksdtoe.html

What is making me crazy is the "candy cane" thing.... and that i can't find this decoration pattern as an Delatte or as an Schneider....

I own the vase since a few weeks, I found it in a kind of "flea markert" being sold as a Delatte, but i saw the "candy Cane" or berlingot and though....mmmmmm....may be an unidentifyed Schneider with a faked Delatte signature, the price was more or less ok (as the vase is really beautiful) and i bought it...and i know the seller, he ¡s a french trader and i use to buy from him some french art nouveau and art deco glass....nice pieces and fair prices, so i went on...

But the doubt stays, is a Dellate or a Schneider?

Sorry for my english :-)

Best regards form spain.

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Re: Schneider Piece?
« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2009, 11:36:57 PM »
In Edith Mannoni's book on Schneider, the "candy cane" is described as "a tiny cylinder of blue, white and red striped glass".

The cane in the item being considered has a distinct blue line spiraling around, but connecting at the ends of the blue that can be seen as more of a "shadow". That suggests this cane is formed partly of clear glass with the colour showing through. Is that what the Schneider cane really looks like? I have no idea!

Also the cane is "lobed", as would often be expected when working with a section of filgrana twist - but does that mean it is not a "cylinder" as stated by Mannoni?

Not sure if that helps at all.
KevinH

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Re: Schneider Piece?
« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2009, 11:37:05 AM »
Good Mornig KevH.

Well as i far as i saw around the net the candy cane can be longer, shorter, rounded in the corners etc...
The one in my piece has a white background, the clear glass sensation may be for the lighting taking the picture...i add anew one so you see if looks better.

I add some examples, this is why i have my doubts.
The Delatte signature is from a cameo Bowl i own.
The last 2 pictures are from a piece signed "Le Verre Français" + "Candy Cane".

Thanks again in advance.


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Re: Schneider Piece?
« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2011, 05:30:26 PM »
André Delatte was a decorator, also doing cameo. He had his blanks made elsewhere hence the puzzle between signatures. Both are correct.

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Re: Schneider Piece?
« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2011, 05:53:36 PM »
Many thanks for the answer Frank.

That is exactly what we were supposing.

Best wishes.

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