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« on: February 17, 2010, 03:49:50 PM » |
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Hi, I found this huge vase in a charity shop. It looks exactly like Frantisek Peceny's Pat. No. 20040, 1960, but is 250mm tall. Marcus's book and data base only list it as 150mm and 200mm. Have I found something unique? Or is this just a run of the mill vase, or am I just wrong?
Any ideas would be most welcome.
Thanks Tim
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« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2010, 09:37:22 AM » |
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Just in case there is any doubt about the size of the vase I have added an image with a ruler next to it.
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« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2010, 05:28:31 AM » |
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Hi... I thought this was interesting... I was just wondering, is it a Peceny vase? And was it made in three sizes? Thank you  |
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« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2010, 09:29:09 AM » |
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Unfortunately I'm not at home and I can't check, but I know this particular vase is listed twice in Marcus' Sklo CD. Once as Libochovice, 50s as I recall, unknown maker pattern 959 (I hope I recall this number correctly, otherwise I will rectify it), and once as the Peceny 20040. There is a note under Peceny that this vase is the same as the Libochovice one. It could be that the size 250mm would indicate it's the 959 instead of Peceny's... I was going to ask eventually if anyone could clarify this situation, but I hadn't gotten round to it yet. Have lots more urgent identifications lined up to post without hogging the board . |
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« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2010, 10:41:12 AM » |
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Marcus said somewhere (possibly on the board a while ago or possibly during a chat we had) that some patterns were made by two different works within the Sklo Union groups - i.e. that one or two sizes were made at one works, and other sizes at another, as a way of spreading the workload across what was a state-controlled industry to keep them all running. Load-balancing, if you like.
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« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2010, 11:17:43 AM » |
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Ah, that would help me too! Since mine was 200mm and listed under both factories, I couldn't choose. This would indicate that I can still assume Peceny was the designer, regardless which factory it came from.
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« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2010, 11:48:17 AM » |
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Yup indeed Astrid. You need to remember that production wasn't seen in terms of each factory being a standalone unit but as being parts of the whole state-owned output then it makes sense.
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« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2010, 01:35:10 PM » |
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Hmmm...  I was asking because in Hi Sklo Lo Sklo, on page 17, Mark Hill identifies this vase as Rosice no.959, designer unknown. It was available in three sizes... I thought that maybe Peceny had been identified as the designer somewhere along the line and I just missed it. Thank you for the comments! |
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« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2010, 02:31:38 PM » |
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It is Rosice 959, Marcus has it in his database as well see the notice at 20040. I have not find the confirmation of Peceny as a designer of this piece for the meantime. see Glasrevue 1957/9. Jindrich www.webareal.cz/ceskoslovenskesklo |
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« Reply #9 on: June 21, 2010, 04:05:52 PM » |
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Ah, so we still don't know if Peceny was the designer of this vase or not... Thank you, Jindrich |
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« Reply #10 on: June 21, 2010, 04:19:30 PM » |
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Marcus says it is Peceny piece. In Glasrevues from 50ties were designer's names published very rarely. Probably Marcus has found attribution in some later resources. I would trust him (conditionaly) :D Jindrich www.webareal.cz/ceskloslovenskesklo |
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« Reply #11 on: June 21, 2010, 07:22:30 PM » |
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Eh, I meant Rosice as well in my posts instead of Libochovice. That will teach me to work from memory instead of waiting till I get home and check...
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« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2010, 09:09:54 AM » |
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Hi, interesting in deed....
all these mentioned have 5 horizontal rows of lenses, but what is mine then:
it is otherwise very similar but has only 4 rows of them. 25 cm high and with a very Sklo union base with well and matt ring.
Also it may seem a bit less widening from base to top in general shape, I think.
I'll add pic later if needed.
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« Reply #14 on: July 26, 2010, 06:35:21 AM » |
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No, your piece is from Bohemia Podebrady, leaded pressed crystal Jindrich www.webareal.cz/ceskoslovenskesklo |
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