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Offline David E

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Measuring Jug marked P & S Ltd, Reg. No. 824215
« on: March 02, 2010, 03:42:59 PM »
Can anyone help with identifying the maker of this measuring jug, please?

It has the Registered Design No. of 824215, but it is not listed in great-glass.co.uk (although I appreciate this is not a definitive list). I am also aware of the Intellectual Property Office but this, as usual, finds nothing remotely historical...

Does anyone know of a full and comprehensive RegDes list, not just for glass?
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Re: Measuring Jug marked P & S Ltd, Reg. No. 824215
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2010, 06:27:00 PM »
I believe there was a company called Prince and Symmons but i know nothing about them .


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Re: Measuring Jug marked P & S Ltd, Reg. No. 824215
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2010, 01:18:42 AM »
It's not in the Glass Assn Blue Book list either David.


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Re: Measuring Jug marked P & S Ltd, Reg. No. 824215
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2010, 09:24:46 AM »
Thanks so far. The only mention of Prince and Symmons, is this when googling

But this indicates they were wholesale agents/distributors, rather than manufacturers. More digging I think.
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Re: Measuring Jug marked P & S Ltd, Reg. No. 824215
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2010, 02:54:26 PM »
No trace of them in 1907 Annuaire as dealers. 1931 list of glass makers (PG Annual) in Glass Study has no matches on initials except unlikely Pearson, S., (West Bromwich) Ltd. (bottles), Charles Street
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Measuring jug RD 824215, 1937/38 Precise registration details, please?
« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2013, 07:00:17 PM »
A clear glass measuring jug. The sides are marked with British standard cup sizes, imperial to 1 1/2 pints, Fluid ozs to 32 oz and maximum capacity 1 litre.
Underside of the base marked "Made in England - Reg. Des.824215 - P&S Ltd".

(Permission for the re-use of this image on the GMB granted by tillymint-me).

Not listed at http://www.great-glass.co.uk/glass%20notes/regnos10.htm

Is it listed in the Blue Book? If so, would some kind GMB member let me have the precise registration details, please.

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Re: Measuring jug RD 824215, 1937/38 Precise registration details, please?
« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2013, 08:48:42 AM »
Unfortunately, another CLASS 4 Registration.

Kew references are.......           Representations BT 52/2160            and for the Register  BT 53/74.

Hope you can read the text.


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Re: Measuring jug RD 824215, 1937/38 Precise registration details, please?
« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2013, 09:16:29 AM »
the text might not be so easy to read.............so, wording appears to read:
"Platers & Stampers Limited, Colne Road, Burnley, Lancashire.
Address for Service................c/o  Stevens, Langner (or Langmer), Parry & Rollinson,  5 - 9  Quality Court, Chancery Lane,  London, W.C.2.
7th August 1942 extended for second period of 5 years.
16th Sepetember 1947 extended for final period of five years.                          Copyright expired 4th November 1952

Chancery Lane was an old stamping ground of mine.......used to watch the girls playing netball on the Grays Inn courts, shopped in Gamages, Leather Lane market, browsed the Farringdon Road second hand book stalls, and trips round the B.M. in the lunch breaks...........and Covent Garden was in Covent Garden. :)         


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Re: Measuring jug RD 824215, 1937/38 Precise registration details, please?
« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2013, 11:46:40 AM »
Interesting. My mother still has hers, and I think it may have been a wedding present (1949) or a slightly later purchase, so it would tie in with when these were made. However, I seem to remember that there was a mechanical whisk contraption that fitted over the top so that it was actually a combined measuring jug and mixing bowl. But that still doesn't answer why it was given a Class 4 registration.
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Re: Measuring jug RD 824215, 1937/38 Precise registration details, please?
« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2013, 01:33:27 PM »
I can't recall the link or when, but seem to remember that Bernard went into some detail as to why he considered a few glass items were given CLASS 4 classification (earthenware).            You hardly think an item like this might encourage or need industrial subterfuge.

 

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