thank you Sue and David
David I found the cloud one but was sure that somewhere on this site there was a blue one also attributed to Sowerby as I remember coming across it and being surprised my little bowl had a name
but I can't find the thread about them at all at the mo
Sue, the Nazeing attribution led me to find this link of a pic
Ebay item 260550527355
I think they all look remarkably similar
so I'll give her both options
Very simple design ashtrays but look great. The red is my favourite. There must have been masses of them made (my gran had the blue one) but I've not seen a red one before.