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« Reply #15 on: September 20, 2005, 09:35:50 AM » |
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I hope you can't find the Panels and Diamonds pattern, because that means we can assume it's Australian  :lol: I shall stop looking Cathy :lol: :lol: Seriously now.......I will do some "looking" with regard to all this (may take a short while). Glen
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« Reply #16 on: September 27, 2005, 09:23:03 AM » |
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Cathy, my friend has kindly sent me the following details and photo of his Petaloid vase.
(http://tinypic.com/e0ivit.jpg)
The base of the vase is ground, not polished, and is domed. Please find below some information that may (or may not !) be useful:- 3 piece mould Overall height - 205mm Top diameter - 90mm (has a slight flare) Base outside diameter - 71mm Base inside diameter - 50mm Depth of domed base - 10mm
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« Reply #17 on: September 28, 2005, 10:52:27 AM » |
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Glen - thank you very much for going to all this trouble! I haven't got the corresponding petaloid vase, but I have never seen an Australian piece with a domed, ground base like that.
I seem to recall we had a discussion about this piece before and that you already came to the conclusion that it wasn't Australian. You're definitely right, but it doesn't help to identify who did make it! Sigh.
I've gone through your Sowerby CD now (which is highly highly recommended everyone!!). There are a few Sowerby and/or Sowerby inspired pieces in the Australian catalogues. They are not the most exciting designs, so I don't think they would have bothered copying them. Haven't time tonight, but at some point in the future (probably after the next assignment is done) I'll drag out the numbers and get pics.
Just as a general question, did Sowerby make anything in uranium yellow in the 1930s?
Cheers Glen, and thanks for all your help and patience!
Cathy.
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« Reply #18 on: September 28, 2005, 11:11:23 AM » |
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Cathy, one very quick response from me....my gut feel is that this vase was made by Rindskopf. I can give you all the reasons why I suspect that, but I thought I'd go straight to the bottom line and make this a quick note :lol:
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« Reply #19 on: September 28, 2005, 11:30:20 AM » |
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Hi again, just another short one. In the Czech special you sent me, I also note that our "shell panels" is heavily influenced by Rindskopf's "inverted prisms". They are different enough to be destinct though - particularly in the scallop shell pattern which is around the top of the Australian version.
It's kind of depressing. All these fantastic deco patterns I thought might have been Australian originals have turned out to be influenced.
Cheers, Cathy
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« Reply #20 on: October 19, 2005, 07:53:41 AM » |
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Hi Cathy This may be off the topic a little - but I thought the following vase on ebay was interesting because of its similarity in some ways to the Australian 'Petals' vase: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7358301797&fromMakeTrack=true
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« Reply #21 on: October 19, 2005, 08:10:27 AM » |
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Thanks Jo, that's brilliant! I wondered when something like that would show up, since everything else in that era seems to have been copied from somewhere else. There are a couple of prominent original designs from about 1939, and I'm not sure all made it through to production.
The petals vase was made in a posy vase size (it's either 1.5 or 2" high - will have to check, no time now), but this one seems to be more flared.
All the best, Cathy.
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« Reply #22 on: October 19, 2005, 10:09:43 AM » |
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:shock: :shock: I have just dragged my little Petals vase from the top of a cupboard where I had forgotten all about it... and it's far more similar to the vase on ebay than I remembered. I've taken a photo (ignore the messy desk and the muck on the vase!). The pattern of the petals on mine is definitely the Australian Petals pattern - the same as on the larger less conical vase and is slightly different to the one on ebay. http://tinypic.com/erh215.jpg
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« Reply #23 on: October 20, 2005, 09:01:21 AM » |
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Thanks again Jo! I have all three sizes made in Australia, but now I don't know what is what. One of them is green and frosted, and one has that alternate frit/plain panel effect. I'll have to dig them all out and compare now. And of course, there's always the possibility that they got hold of the mould.
Bitten off far more than I can chew here. Cathy
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« Reply #24 on: December 22, 2009, 05:17:54 AM » |
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The pics and Tony's album link have all gone from this topic - could they be restored please for future reference? Many thanks. 
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