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Offline scimiman

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Re: Mdina rare 'cut ice' fish vase signed by Michael Harris...
« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2010, 04:32:36 PM »
Drop Ron an email with picture of the signature and he will give you a definitive answer on the sig.
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Re: Mdina rare 'cut ice' fish vase signed by Michael Harris...
« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2010, 04:59:07 PM »
Scimiman, it's not a question of whether the sig is a fake anymore (we've all established that it is a fake) but a question of Mdina or IoWSG.  Some of us think it's Mdina and others that it's by Tim Harris at IoWSG. If you have any thoughts they would be good to hear.

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Re: Mdina rare 'cut ice' fish vase signed by Michael Harris...
« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2010, 07:17:19 PM »
Paul,
easiest thing is to send Ron at Artius glass the link to this thread.
I believe he is a member on the GMB
saves sending him all the photos etc.
Andy
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Re: Mdina rare 'cut ice' fish vase signed by Michael Harris...
« Reply #13 on: April 08, 2010, 02:36:32 PM »
O.K. So I think everyone has had their two pennuth and have come to most of
the correct conclusions.
I'll now throw in mine and say that it is definitely NOT Tim's. It
definitely is relatively early and is definitely a 'Lollipop' not a 'Fish'
as it is fully cased and not 'dipped'.
As regards signature, well, unless he was absolutely three sheets to the
wind (p..sed in other words) and I doubt that knowing him as I did, this is
someone's attempt at a  copy. A lot of surprisingly good characteristics but
let down on one or two others.
So, either a crude try at a fake/forged signature or, and it is a
possibility, done at the time by one of the other employees as a result of
the purchaser asking for the artists signature and Mike not being available.
Have I opened a can of worms here?. Knowing how keen you all get on
possibilities - probably!  I don't like that last possibility but it is a
possibility nonetheless. However this still means it is not Mike's signature
and therefore of no value intrinsically.
I will wait to pass final judgment on another question mark which cannot be
assessed without clutching for close inspection and it does involve the wear
marks
Regards
Ron
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Re: Mdina rare 'cut ice' fish vase signed by Michael Harris...
« Reply #14 on: April 08, 2010, 05:40:10 PM »
Now I'm totally flummoxed so to speak.. is this a rare item ? I have never come across a 'lollypop' this size and with this web like patterning, and how would I get a valuation with regards to selling it  on
I'm not too disappointed about the signature though and hopefully it will turn out well in the end. I am keeping my fingers crossed that its a scarce piece and will appeal to the serious early Mdina collectors out there.
I will bring it along to the glass fair in May for Ron, Mark and any interested parties to handle. Regards Paul.
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Re: Mdina rare 'cut ice' fish vase signed by Michael Harris...
« Reply #15 on: April 08, 2010, 07:17:31 PM »
Valuations are always tricky and a little subjective. ;D   Keep an eye on the market and see if anything similar sells. Give you fifty quid for it. :chky:

The size is not that unusual (good size though), here's one a fraction taller which is a 'cut ice' version, you can just see where the two facets meet (the straight line in the centre). Yours, from your photos looks like it isn't facet cut, i.e. with two faces ground and polished flat. The web patterning is not in itself rare but it is not as if you will find one of these on every street corner. Far from it, not that many will have been made.

Good photos by the way.

John

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Re: Mdina rare 'cut ice' fish vase signed by Michael Harris...
« Reply #16 on: April 09, 2010, 12:32:34 AM »
It might not always be the case, but I think a lot of people would consider a fake signature to be damage.

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Re: Mdina rare 'cut ice' fish vase signed by Michael Harris...
« Reply #17 on: April 09, 2010, 12:57:34 AM »
There could also be a development in collecting items with "wrong signatures".

It has happened with faked Paul Ysart paperweights from the early 80s, which can now sell for up to UKĀ£200 ::), compared to genuine 70s period PY work which for some of the regular designs will fetch less than faked items!!!
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Re: Mdina rare 'cut ice' fish vase signed by Michael Harris...
« Reply #18 on: April 09, 2010, 07:00:23 AM »
Hi all.. I'm getting confused even more my vase has got both sides facet cut, here is another image that hopefully shows it better... My vase looks remarkably
like the one John points out except for its more rounded form. Thanks for the comments on the photo's John. Fifty quid indeed  ::)
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Re: Mdina rare 'cut ice' fish vase signed by Michael Harris...
« Reply #19 on: April 09, 2010, 07:40:20 AM »
Gotta try.... >:D

Lovely proportions, still :mrgreen:.


John

 

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