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« on: November 22, 2005, 09:32:05 AM »
We have good knowledge about the sequence of events that meant Rudolf Schrotter's "Lord" pattern of 1922, being made in the UK, as "Jacobean". See for example:

http://www.cloudglass.com/ClaytonMayers.htm

Now does anyone know the full story behind another of his designs, "Boule" of 1935,

http://www.sklounion.com/Schrotterboule.jpg

and why so many companies seem to have made it as "Candlewick"?

A few examples:
Libbey,
Imperial
Anchor Hocking,
Hughes
Clambroth

Was it made also in the UK?

I'm intrigued because Schrotter must have put more glass on more dining-tables than most designers. "Boule" for example was not the only pattern introduced in 1935, as "Pollax" another Schrotter design began to leave Inwald the same year. I have also a reference to a pattern which went into production in 1940, but which, as yet I have not managed to identify. Any suggestions as to what that pattern might have been?

"Perforal" was 1947

Image of Boule above: Late production see double labels here:

http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?album=33&pos=5  <--- Mod: Image vanished, please update
TIA and regards,

Marcus

Image of "Boule" in this post copyright M Newhall 2005
Image of labels on the above piece is copy-left, M Newhall 2005


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« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2005, 09:58:45 AM »
Marcus asked
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I have also a reference to a pattern which went into production in 1940, but which, as yet I have not managed to identify. Any suggestions as to what that pattern might have been?


"Zwiebel Muster"?

By the way, just for the avoidance of doubt (though I know you are fully aware Marcus, but just in case any readers are not) although Jacobean aka Lord was made in the UK, the pattern was also being made in Czechoslovakia for some time.

Glen

Edited to add: PS Clambroth is a colour, isn't it?
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« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2005, 11:10:42 AM »
Clambroth = a strange and hard to define yellowish color that is sometimes described as "ginger ale". In Carnival it is one of these schizophrenic colors that some people believe is an iridescent effect only, while others say it is also a base color.

Frankly I'd prefer to eat it.  :shock: Perfect for a chilly day like today.

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« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2005, 11:43:13 AM »
Glen - I have also seen the term "clambroth" used to describe a opaline translucent glass which is grayish cream in color.


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« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2005, 12:27:02 PM »
Connie - oh! Goodness  :shock:  I can quite imagine that too. Isn't it amazing what terms we glass collectors/researchers use. That makes the term clambroth even more confusing, doesn't it? I even see some pale and wishy washy marigold described as clambroth (when it's really just poor marigold).

Thanks for the extra info, Connie.

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« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2005, 12:36:27 PM »
:oops:
Me mis-reading an entry......

I'm with you on the food...

Onion pattern??

I saw a set which may be the pattern on eBay.de, marked them for bidding, and missed them.... (Sorry Peter, I will get some soft-ware).

http://cgi.ebay.de/Schuessel-und-6-Schalen-altes-Pressglas_W0QQitemZ6575741705QQcategoryZ7479  Mod: link dead

Regards,

Marcus


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« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2005, 12:52:20 PM »
Marcus - "Zwiebel Muster" - it's a strange pattern name, isn't it? The design features flowers and leaves on a stippled background.

Or another suggestion for your mystery 4th pattern  -"Rex" (an interlocking diamond design, a bit like the things we used to draw with spirographs!)

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« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2005, 01:56:11 PM »
Quote from: "Le Casson"
:oops:
Me mis-reading an entry......

I'm with you on the food...

Onion pattern??

I saw a set which may be the pattern on eBay.de, marked them for bidding, and missed them.... (Sorry Peter, I will get some soft-ware).

http://cgi.ebay.de/Schuessel-und-6-Schalen-altes-Pressglas_W0QQitemZ6575741705QQcategoryZ7479QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Regards,

Marcus


The pattern in that auction in the US is often known collectively as "Colonial"  Almost all the big glass makers made a similar pattern and they are a pain to differentiate.  Hence I usually avoid buying unless they are extremely cheap.

Re: decribing patterns or glass using food terms is very familiar to me.  As a veterianarian with post-doc training in veterinary pathology I was trained to describe disease, clinical signs, lesions etc. in terms of food.  A day of veterinary pathology is enough to turn anyone off eating  :P


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« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2005, 02:11:15 PM »
While looking for pix of Pollax, I discovered a couple of links which I hope might be useful as well as illustrate some of these patterns.

Lord
Here's an old advert / catalog image showing the Lord service in a 1951 cataogue. (page down...near the end)
http://www.glassrevue.com/news.asp?nid=3214
Boule and Pollax are mentioned in the text towards the top in connection with Schrotter
but my Czech is sadly lacking  :roll: and no images of those. :(

Boule / Pollax
Does this mention in Pressglas-Korrespondenz Anhang 21, Nový, Pressglas und Kristallerie im Isergebirge 2004-1-21
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Modegeschmack im Nutzpressglas übernahm
mit Erfolg auch die Firma Sklárny a rafinerie Josef Inwald,
Praha, für die Rudolf Schrötter kommerziell erfolgreiche,
funktionalistische, gepresste Nutzglas-
Garnituren „Durit“ und „Duritopal“ (1927-1929; aus
stoßfestem Glas), „Boule“ (1935) oder „Pollax“ entwarf.
suggest that Boule and Pollax are two names for the same design or am I reading it wrong ?

Candlewick(aka Boule)
Some pics here of Imperial's Candlewick along with original adverts from House and Garden, October 1956
http://www.jcwiese.com/imperial.htm  Mod: Link dead

Lord & Perforal
There are a couple of (not very good ) pics of Perforal and Lord here on the Teplice Museum website on the Rudolfova Huť page http://www.muzeum-teplice.cz/rudolfka/rudolfka.htm
and a better shot of a Perforal Cake Plate which seems to have been popular in the States (without name change !)  here http://www.finecrystalitems.com/detail.aspx?ID=2070 Mod: Link dead

Bull, Argos and Orlow patterns ????
An article at the Teplice Museum site mentions three other designs: Bull, Argos and Orlow but no mention of Pollax and Boule.
http://www.muzeum-teplice.cz/historie/ema1003.htm
and a pic there but nothing to say which pattern it is !!!
Pete


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« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2005, 03:25:15 PM »
Boule and Pollax are different patterns.

Boule has the little ball (boule) shapes around the edge - while Pollax is plain edged with smooth lines.

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