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Davidson 360 trinket set tray in frosted green
« on: May 22, 2010, 08:01:32 PM »
This one had me puzzled until I went mooching through Chris and Val Stewart's Davidson Glass website and found the same tray in cloudglass. It's from the 360 trinket set and the Stewarts say
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This trinket set was  ...  only made in Amber Cloud and some plain flint colours.
but does frosted green count as a plain flint colour?

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Re: Davidson 360 trinket set tray in frosted green
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2010, 02:56:42 PM »
.......quite possibly so  -  if they were simply drawing attention to cloud and non-cloud appearances.    When the word 'flint' is used, does this imply that the glass was really made from flints (as in antiquity)  -  as opposed to using modern methods of sand etc.    In former times, and in ignorance, I also used the word 'flint', thinking that this was the correct way to describe the method of making 'clear' glass.     Having become wiser I now know that flint is used only if the metal was literally made using flints (presumably instead of sand)...........make any sense Anne ;D
By the way, what does the spell check tell you when you use the word mooching ;), and just think how the meaning changes when you add the 's'.
(I've just checked........it does nothing).   Paul S. 

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Re: Davidson 360 trinket set tray in frosted green
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2010, 03:28:46 PM »
Paul, I couldn't possible go smooching online!  ;D

I've always understood "plain flint" to relate to clear uncoloured glass, and can understand "plain flint colours" could mean clear (i.e. not frosted) coloured glass, but I've not come across it in respect of frosted colours before which is why I'm wondering, Paul.

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Re: Davidson 360 trinket set tray in frosted green
« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2010, 03:48:53 PM »
ignore me, Anne, I was making an effort at being clever, but it really is too hot for that.   Just that I had believed that you were able to use the word 'flint' quite literally only if the metal had been created using flints instead of sand or Venetian pebbles.   Has connections with English lead glass I think, but the word was dropped when sand replaced the flints.    If glass is made using sand (silica), and not flints - and the finished article remains colourless - then believe it is simply called clear glass.  Loustrousstone or Bernard, I'm sure, will put me :) right.

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Re: Davidson 360 trinket set tray in frosted green
« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2010, 03:52:11 PM »
Too hot here too Paul (25C/78F in the shade here in the cold north country!!!)... I think I might drop Chris Stewart a line and see what he thinks as he's the main man where Davidson's concerned. :)

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Re: Davidson 360 trinket set tray in frosted green
« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2010, 08:01:39 PM »
Apologies to those who have heard this from me before, but in the North East (England) glass industry the word had very specific meanings.  Both Sowerbys and Davidsons used "flint" to mean colourless soda lime glass.  Whether or not it was later acid etched was irrelevant.  Joblings used the term in their "Flint Factory", which was how they described their traditional pressed glass department.  The word "flint" was therefore used in Sunderland, locally and rather loosely, to describe anything, regardless of colour, which wasn't "Pyrex"!!

Of course, in the optical and cut glass industries we have different meanings again.  My best advice would be to stay well away from the word!

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Re: Davidson 360 trinket set tray in frosted green
« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2010, 09:17:30 PM »
Adam thank you for explaining, that does help - so flint colours would be a contradiction in Davidson terms?

Have you come across this trinket tray before Adam? Chris says the 360 set was the last trinket set Davidson introduced before WW2 (1938) so its introduction pre-dates your time there, but I don't know how long it was in production.

(And it's good to see you again   :-* I think I may have more questions to tax you with soon too!)

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Re: Davidson 360 trinket set tray in frosted green
« Reply #7 on: May 31, 2010, 08:52:28 PM »
No, Anne, that tray rings no bells for me.  Yes, "flint colours" would be meaningless in Gateshead, but I suppose not in Sunderland.  Remember I never saw Joblings "Flint Factory" in action (except as a carton store!).

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