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Re: Latticino from Saint-Louis or Murano?
« Reply #20 on: April 25, 2013, 10:16:58 AM »
Ivo, I've been looking for this for ages and I think I might have a possible!
I think it's possible it could be  Josephinenhutte c 1840
In my Nagel books for the J.J. Ludwig Regensburg sale there is a becher with the same foot and red rim, in latticino but instead of the strips of latticino being joined together as yours are, they have a slight clear gap between each one. 
The reference is  Vgl. Kat. Fischer Heilbronn (03/2005), Sammlung Dr Claus Arendt, Lot 870.
Obviously not a definite id, but you could now check it out maybe?
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Re: Latticino from Saint-Louis or Murano?
« Reply #21 on: April 25, 2013, 10:54:51 AM »
Thank you I've made a note to go and look for it as soon as time permits.
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Re: Latticino from Saint-Louis or Murano?
« Reply #22 on: April 25, 2013, 03:41:11 PM »
I'll email you some pics
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Re: Latticino from Saint-Louis or Murano?
« Reply #23 on: September 24, 2013, 12:19:17 PM »
Ivo have you ever seen this link
http://www.rossellajunck.it/pagina7.html

'Murano, Pietro Bigaglia, 1845-48
H. cm. 19 L. cm. 10'
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Re: Latticino from Saint-Louis or Murano?
« Reply #24 on: September 24, 2013, 12:26:50 PM »
That solves it doesn't it?  Took a long while, I am both relieved and delighted.
Thank you
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Re: Latticino from Saint-Louis or Murano?
« Reply #25 on: September 24, 2013, 12:51:25 PM »
I hope so  :) I have no knowledge of this glass though, so hopefully Anita will be able to help you more on thoughts on similarities.
Very exciting if it is.
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Re: Latticino from Saint-Louis or Murano?
« Reply #26 on: September 24, 2013, 01:02:54 PM »

On this beaker it also says probably Bigaglia
it has a red/pink trailed rim as well
http://www.rossellajunck.it/pagina3bicchiereretortolibianchi.html

Nothing to match exactly on the museum site, but the last bottle (page 20) is interesting.


http://www.archiviodellacomunicazione.it/Sicap/opac.aspx?WEB=MuseiVE&LNG=ENG

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Re: Latticino from Saint-Louis or Murano?
« Reply #28 on: September 25, 2013, 02:32:37 PM »
Salviati used a similar version of the filigrana from what I can see, and they were very fond of trailed rims, so I searched the museum site to see if there were any clues.
I found one goblet here
http://www.archiviodellacomunicazione.it/Sicap/opac.aspx?WEB=MuseiVE&LNG=ENG
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there are jugs and ewers with a similar foot to yours c. 1870's (different decor)
http://www.archiviodellacomunicazione.it/Sicap/opac.aspx?WEB=MuseiVE&LNG=ENG

http://www.archiviodellacomunicazione.it/Sicap/opac.aspx?WEB=MuseiVE&LNG=ENG
and here c.1860's
http://www.archiviodellacomunicazione.it/Sicap/opac.aspx?WEB=MuseiVE&LNG=ENG

so it's possible yours dates to around that or earlier perhaps and given the filigrana and shape? and it seems closest to the Bigaglia in terms of having all of  the filigrana, trailed rim, foot and shape so far.
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Re: Latticino from Saint-Louis or Murano?
« Reply #29 on: September 26, 2013, 10:41:51 AM »
sorry none of those links worked
if you go to the link and type in Salviati,
on page 29 you will find a number of ewers/jugs from the 1860's with a similar foot to yours
on page 43 some bottles and jugs from 1870's with a similar foot to yours
on page 97 a goblet at the bottom of the page with similar filigrana to yours and a red trailed rim.
 tip - if you click on the 3 little dots next to the page numbers, it quickly takes you up 10 pages in your search.

I don't know anything about Bigaglia but it seems he revived much earlier Venetian techniques in his glass, and that would fit also with the similarities with the piece in the Wallace collection?

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