Topic: Amber/Gold knobbly vase

[Kez]

I have added two more photos to try to help with ID. The blue and streaky green are W/F pattern no. 9612, Thanks.

[johnphilip]

I respect Emmis opinion on this , she is one of the W/Fs people that usually get it right , some of them like playing with colours so you can be deceived .

[vidrioguapo]

Seeing the photo with the other two 9612's I can see how similar it is.  I stand by my previous comments, but also would keep an open mind.  I suppose there is a possibility it could be a "frigger", but it would not be a FLC Gold one as the colour is certainly "off".  LOL!  I AM at last learning that sometimes things are not so cut and dried!! :spls2: AND it would be surprising  to me, if Whitefriars made this in this Amberish colour, as Amber was out of their colour range for a few years, before the introduction of the Knobbly range.

However, I did purchase a long time ago something like yours Kez, almost same shape and certainly similar colour, which turned out to be Czech, unfortunately I didn't keep the data on it (another lesson learned!)

Perhaps you could bring it to the Cambridge Glass Fair in September for a few other  people to take a look - nothing beats a hands on assessment!

[Kez]

Hi Emmi, strange isn't it. Can I ask what a 'frigger' is please. Also I have posted another knobbly vase on w/f isit ,if you wouldn't mind having a look at some point. I am planning to go to the glass fair, hopefully, so I will bring it along if I do. Kez

[vidrioguapo]

A frigger ( in glass terms- completely different on Wikipedia!) is an item made by one of the glass workers in his own time based on,  but usually not exactly, on one of the production items.  There are a few "friggers" of knobblies on my blog, so you can see what I mean there.  I am sure someone else has a more technical explanation of a frigger, so all other descriptions welcome!

[Paul S.]

try here also  -  very interesting

http://www.glassyeye.com/glasstopics/friggers.html

Paul S.

[vidrioguapo]

Thanks Paul, and this paragraph apparently applied very much to the Whitefriars workers, so I am told..........

In reality, however, most friggers were probably made by the glassblowers to sell off down the pub at the end of the shift to subsidise their wages!

[Paul S.]

thanks  -  I remembered having seen this information earlier and just thought it might have been of interest.    I wouldn't doubt you for a moment regarding the 'reality' of things - like all poorly paid working class artisans they needed all the help they could get.    I showed a swan frigger some 6 months or so ago  -  stacks of wear/age - and I seem to remember Lustrousstone commenting that she thought it might have been a wfrs. frigger  -- unfortuntely, no one else thought the same    As always, thanks for your expert help.

[Patrick]

In reality, however, most friggers were probably made by the glassblowers to sell off down the pub at the end of the shift to subsidise their wages!

To get the 'Old glass' effect the gather was rolled in the factory floor dust.   Georgian rummers were great sellers !.

Regards,
               Patrick.

[Kez]

Hi Emmi , just a thank you again for yourself, Julian, Patrick and many others who took the time to look at the two knobblies I brought along to the Cambridge glass fair. I am pleased that they have now been confirmed to be Whitefriars, even though the shapes are ' unusual ' . With thanks Kez .

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