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Offline RAY

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Frosted & clear crystal animals: Nachtmann, Goebel
« on: November 29, 2005, 11:59:14 PM »
i've just sold one but mine was marked Goebel on the base and this one  Nachtmann, so who makes them?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7370886106&ru=http
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« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2005, 12:27:09 AM »
A good point Ray

I know Goebel have been making frosted glass animals with clear octagonal bases for a while, here is their often seen eagle I have sold many times

(http://hometown.aol.co.uk/blackcatgla/images/goebeeag.jpg)

I have only recently noticed Nachtmann selling a similar type of animal with the same base (though some new ones have pedestalled bases etc.) through eBay. I have to admit I have never noticed a complete Goebel clone before, anyone know if there has been a merger or designer leap recently?

Miller A-Z has Nachtmann listed as a company based in Germany (1834 to present) and on the net it appears to still be a company in its own right; mind you they are both German companies (Goebel & Nachtmann).

I have Nachtmann vases and bowls but not animals

Ray - have you a photo of your donkey as I am getting very similar but not quite the same Nachtmann animals - I have just looked through about 100 on eBay old listings - could it be the items are similar but not quite with subtle diffrences?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/GOEBEL-PAPERWEIGHT-LALIQUE-TYPE-GLASS-SHETLAND-PONY_W0QQitemZ7364894728QQcategoryZ88QQtcZphotoQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Goebel

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7370886106&ru=http Nachtmann

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« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2005, 01:17:56 AM »
I have a Nachtmann pony in this style.    http://yobunny.org.uk/gallery1/displayimage.php?pos=-262

The base is clear octagonal. The pony is frosted. There is an etched Nachtmann mark on the base    http://yobunny.org.uk/gallery1/displayimage.php?pos=-599 and a Crystal Creations clear plastic label on the side of the pedestal. Crystal Creations label is here:    http://yobunny.org.uk/gallery1/displayimage.php?pos=-590

I also noticed whilst Googling, that Nachtmann is now offered on the Dartington website here: http://www.dartington.co.uk/acatalog/Nachtmann.html


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« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2005, 01:55:56 AM »
Thanks Anne the two Pony's are excatly the same with a Nachtmann and Goebel label

How confusing :?
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« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2005, 08:45:26 AM »
Nachtmann is a huge company and will make figurines for anyone who commissions them. They have bought up several industries (such as Lenox USA) and are most succesful as crystal marketeers and producers.
Most of their wares are traditional with a high granny-appeal and most of us would not mistake them for works of art. Still, I was quite amazed at the quality of this pig. It is labeled "Princess House pets" - by Nachtmann
(http://tinypic.com/i1ybgh.jpg)
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« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2005, 09:00:56 AM »
I also have this duck, made by Nachtmann and labelled "Princess House Pets"

Duck; http://tinypic.com/i1ywzt.jpg
Label; http://tinypic.com/i1yx4i.jpg
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« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2005, 03:19:25 PM »
I was passing the charity shop this morning when I saw this fellow lurking.  I don't suppose he could be called anyone's pet, but he's sort of fun  :lol:
http://tinypic.com/i214cm.jpg  Any ideas who made him?
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« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2005, 03:24:22 PM »
I would not be surprised if you're right on topic!
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« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2005, 03:26:40 PM »
Quote from: "Ivo"
I would not be surprised if you're right on topic!

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« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2005, 04:02:43 PM »
I know what you mean Ivo

Nachtmann’s production seems to vary, good information on them though thanks. I never realised they made so many products for other companies, amazing that Goebel would take Nachtmann glass figures and etch their names on them (but maybe not knowing that market)

One Nachtmann range I like has gadrooned decoration and is often gourd shaped, very heavy good crystal and simple shapes, I don’t think they do it anymore?

Here is a vase (not the best picture)
(http://hometown.aol.co.uk/blackcatgla/images/nachtmann.jpg)

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