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Offline yesvil

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Candle holder?
« on: June 10, 2010, 07:33:48 PM »
A couple of old gents had this on their car-boot stall along with a whole heap of broken Victorian bits & pieces. It has me wondering what it is and what age. I have presumed it to be a candle holder but the openings open out towards the top - not particularly a practical shape to hold a candle. There is also a little dimple at the bottom of each opening. Any ideas?

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Re: Candle holder?
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2010, 08:43:16 PM »
It is a Sklo Union product and the ground rim is down, the candle opening is up....

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Re: Candle holder?
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2010, 09:45:11 PM »
If I interpreted my new Sklo Union database CD correctly (which works fine except that it crashes everytime I try to enter any form of measurements :( ), it looks very much like Rudolph Jurnikl design for Rudolfova, pattern number 13216 in 1965. Size can be 70 mm or 90 mm. Just correct me if I'm wrong...

Recently found myself one of these at a flea market for the princely sum of 0,50 eurocents. And then I bought another one in the same sort of shape, but that strangely had some sort of metal stand attached to it (not an expensive metal, maybe chrome or a cheap form of silverplate). Haven't photographed it yet, can attach one tomorrow. Has anyone ever seen one of those?
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Re: Candle holder?
« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2010, 04:28:52 AM »
Hi Astrid,
this sort of metal?
http://www.pressglas-pavillon.de/aschenbecher/01927.html
I´ve got one of these myself without the lighter. If you compare it with the Jurnikl piece, you´ll
see, that there´s no ground base. These lighters seem to be of german or austrian origin.
Mine had a paper label saying ´handgeschliffen´ (hand-cut), although there´s nothing cut on
it at all...  :huh:
I wasn´t able to find a maker yet.
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Re: Candle holder?
« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2010, 07:08:24 AM »
Well, I suspect my candleholder is the sort where you can have either the metal as base up, or the glass up, depending on the size of the candle you want to lit. I've attached a few pictures from all sides.

One similarity I notice with the Jurnikl piece is that the sides of the glass block in my piece aren't exactly straight, but they are slightly round (well visible in the third picture). That is different from your picture, Dirk, where the sides look very straight to me.

I would be interested to find out if Rudolfova ever attached bits of metal to their glass ware. Or maby other Czech or German factories just copied the basic design and made their own version.

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Re: Candle holder?
« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2010, 08:57:06 AM »
The images have mostly gone now, but this thread from five years ago was something of a revelation at the time.

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Re: Candle holder?
« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2010, 10:01:08 AM »
It is Sklo Union - Rudolf Jurnikl 1965 -Rudolfova huť - patterb 13216. Published in Newhall's Sklo Union book, page 62.

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Re: Candle holder?
« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2010, 10:55:39 AM »
Jindrich, do you think the one with the metal attached is from the same designer/factory, or is it something completely different in your opinion?
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Re: Candle holder?
« Reply #8 on: June 11, 2010, 12:02:06 PM »
Excellent! - Thanks for all your input folks.

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Re: Candle holder?
« Reply #9 on: June 11, 2010, 12:40:08 PM »
I suppose that metal had not been supplied originally, rather I have no evidence that it was produced something like this.

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