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Re: Geometric vase = ZBS
« Reply #10 on: August 28, 2010, 02:34:53 PM »
Just some followup: I saw a neodymium pink one turn up on ebay today with a golden coloured early ZBS label, which would make it from the 50s-60s (according to Mark Hill).
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Re: Geometric vase = ZBS
« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2010, 01:48:21 PM »
Hi,
Jindrich will know about this already, and may have further comment to make.
One of these vases (at 26cm) high) appeared in the recent Sypka (sypka.cz) Czech glass auction in Prague as lot 160. It was attributed to Miroslav Klinger from the 1960s-70s, and is apparently shown in Sindelar's book, in Volf Petr's publication 'Forty Years of Existence of Zeleznobrodke Sklo' and in the 43/1988 edition of GR, by which I presume they mean Czech Glass Review.
Not typical of his style for sure.
Mark

P.S.; it's well worth checking the auction out, all, as the estimates seem very reasonable to me when compared to prices in the UK/US/Western Europe. I'm not sure what the lots actually fetched, nor am I sure how shipping would work, but it's worth a look anyway to enrich the eyes and mind!
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Re: Geometric vase = ZBS
« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2010, 02:33:34 PM »
Thanks Mark, that's an interesting link to keep an eye on. Three publications is more than enough for me to be convinced, I'm glad a proper attribution for this vase can now be made.

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Re: Geometric vase = ZBS
« Reply #13 on: February 16, 2011, 04:45:28 PM »
This ebay listing pointed me to Christie┬┤s:
http://cgi.ebay.de/Seltene-Vase-Leerdam-Entw-F-L-Wright-/260738609384?pt=Glas_Kristall&hash=item3cb53b70e8
Perhaps you should consider to take your vase there, it might give you the means to expend
your collection.
http://www.christie.com.cn/LotFinder/lot_details.aspx?intObjectID=3631697
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Re: Geometric vase = ZBS
« Reply #14 on: February 16, 2011, 05:49:14 PM »
It's funny and sad at the same time, Dirk...

I haven't seen these designs they mention in the text, but personally I thought that FLW only designed this particular vase for Leerdam:
http://www.nationaalglasmuseum.nl/index.php?option=com_memorixbeeld&view=record&Itemid=25&id=gla:col1:dat48135&tstart=

As they admit they can't find the evidence the vase was every produced in Leerdam, they should have been a little more careful IMO with the attribution. Could be that Klinger of course got inspired by the FLW designs and/or reproduced the idea for ZBS at some point.

Does anyone know whether the story about these designs by FLW checks out?

Anyway, it's sad this misattribution is allowed to linger on... they should at least change their website (but of course, if they admitted to their mistake, would that leave the buyer a claim?)

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Re: Geometric vase = ZBS
« Reply #15 on: July 28, 2011, 03:35:47 PM »
Heya!

I have a similar looking one but the cutting is different. The hollow is also narrower and it has a polished pontil. I took a look through CGR 1988 at Jindrichs site but couldn't find it. Any ideas?

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Re: Geometric vase = ZBS
« Reply #16 on: July 28, 2011, 08:36:08 PM »
It certainly looks similar enough to me to be a variation on the same vase.

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Re: Geometric vase = ZBS
« Reply #17 on: July 28, 2011, 09:12:04 PM »
Astrid,

True, but then again the history of glassmaking is littered with examples of glassworks copying, such as the case with the "B├Ârnevas" and Skrdlovice.

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Re: Geometric vase = ZBS
« Reply #18 on: July 28, 2011, 10:08:36 PM »
Oh, and I forgot to mention that my vase is triangular!

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Re: Geometric vase = ZBS
« Reply #19 on: July 28, 2011, 10:47:32 PM »
Leerdam did not produce FLW glass. The director at the time invited FLW to design a vase but more as a pretext for a luxury holiday to the US. It was a long shot. Leerdam did not have the capacity to produce the one vase he designed and that was the end of the matter. Leerdam went broke in 1938 as a result of mismanagement and too many luxury trips and it is a disgrace that the factory still maintains that FLW designed for them. For geometric panel cut vases in rare earth colours, look at Moser, look at ZBS, at Italy or look at Ilmglass - not at Leerdam.
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