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Author Topic: Iridescent Pineapple vases  (Read 1415 times)

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Offline yesvil

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Iridescent Pineapple vases
« on: June 24, 2010, 04:29:21 PM »
These stand about 200mm tall. No great work of art but I love them! Any idea of the origins?

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4013/4713488627_31a4a5f3ed_b.jpg

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Re: Iridescent Pineapple vases
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2010, 06:14:34 PM »
Most likely made by the Canning Town Glass Company.
http://www.thistlewoods.net/England.html

These vases are usually called "Royal Pineapple".

Hope this helps.

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Re: Iridescent Pineapple vases
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2010, 06:29:06 PM »
Most likely made by the Canning Town Glass Company.
http://www.thistlewoods.net/England.html

These vases are usually called "Royal Pineapple".

Hope this helps.

Glen

Thank you Glen most helpful indeed.

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Re: Iridescent Pineapple vases
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2010, 07:41:42 PM »
No, that's not the Canning Town one Glen. This one has kind of scales, not pointy bits. I'm trying to think where I've seen it...

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Re: Iridescent Pineapple vases
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2010, 07:43:41 PM »
No, that's not the Canning Town one Glen. This one has kind of scales, not pointy bits. I'm trying to think where I've seen it...

I've found this since: http://www.ddoty.com/royalpineapple.html

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Re: Iridescent Pineapple vases
« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2010, 07:47:41 PM »
Me too. It's not impossible that they're both Canning Town of course.

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Re: Iridescent Pineapple vases
« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2010, 08:16:08 AM »
Christine, Glen wasn't suggesting that the piece in her link was Royal Pineapple. The link Glen provided was to the entry for Canning Town on her website, and the piece illustrated is a Canning Town Thistle vase, complete with mould so I'd imagine there's no ambiguity surrounding its origins.

Of the Royal Pineapple, she wrote: "Most likely made by the Canning Town Glass Company."

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Re: Iridescent Pineapple vases
« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2010, 09:11:27 AM »
I was confuddled (as usual) by brevity. Sorry  :-[

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Re: Iridescent Pineapple vases
« Reply #8 on: June 25, 2010, 09:21:26 AM »
Being confuddled is usually my job.  :kissy:

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Re: Iridescent Pineapple vases
« Reply #9 on: June 25, 2010, 09:42:46 AM »
My response was that the vases which yesvil has posted are “most likely made by Canning Town Glass Company”. I specifically chose the words “most likely” in order to infer that it wasn’t positive, but that it was pretty much “likely”. I’ll explain why I feel that in a moment; I’ll deal with the other point next.

I wrote that the vases shown by yesvil “are usually called ‘Royal Pineapple’ “.  Cathy understood me perfectly (thank you, Cathy). The name that Carnival Glass collectors give to the vases that yesvil has is “Royal Pineapple”.

I do understand the difference between the “pointy bits” and the “scales”. I have actually been researching and writing about these items over several decades. I provided the link to my page on the Canning Town piece with the “Thistle” vase so you could see the factory that I feel most likely made the “Royal Pineapple” vases.

The mould for the “Thistle” vase is at Broadfield House Museum. It was presented to the museum back in the 1970s by Bob Clements, a Carnival Glass Society (CGS UK) member, who had worked at Canning Town Glass Company. Last year (2009) I asked Roger Dodsworth if he would be able to put the mould on display for the CGS UK’s annual convention. He kindly did exactly that, and we were able to examine the mould closely and put our marigold “Thistle” vase alongside the mould for photos (shown in the link I gave you). In our lecture and display that followed (at the CGS annual convention last year), Steve (my husband) and I showed both “Royal Pineapple” and “Thistle” vases in smoke and marigold. Back in the 1980s we discovered the first known “Thistle” vase in smoke. Since then, a collector friend of ours discovered a “Royal Pineapple” vase in smoke too. The vases are very similar in form and appearance and the smoke iridescence is identical. In my considered opinion the “Royal Pineapple” and the “Thistle” pieces were most likely (i.e. probably) produced by the same maker. My opinion is based on circumstantial evidence, observation and many years of research and experience, hence my statement “most likely made by the Canning Town Glass Company”.

In the section on the Canning Town Glass Works in our book “Carnival Glass, The Magic & The Mystery 2” (page 184) I wrote the following: “It’s possible that a similar shaped vase known as Royal Pineapple (also known in marigold and scarce smoky grey-blue) was made by this company”.
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