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Offline thomasandkatherine

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Vaseline/Citrine glass candlesticks
« on: July 22, 2010, 12:43:31 AM »
I wonder whether anyone is able to id the manufacturer and approximate date of manufacture for these massive candlesticks.  They stand around 21cms tall and weigh just under a kilo together.  There is fantastic age wear to the base so there is no doubt in my mind that the are older pieces.  I thought they might be Derbyshire/Greener but would really appreciate any assistant the experts can give me.  Let me know if the picture is too small and I will attempt another crop of the original.
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Re: Vaseline/Citrine glass candlesticks
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2010, 01:00:12 AM »
 :hiclp: Ooooow - I like.  Very pretty !!
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Re: Vaseline/Citrine glass candlesticks
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2010, 03:01:34 AM »
I have one of those (or close to it) on my desk right now.  Look into Fostoria pattern called 'Colony' (somewhere I saw Heavy Swirl).  But now I notice the top on yours is just slightly different.  Someone else made a very similar candle stick... let me think... hmm.. maybe it will come to me, was another US pressed glass company.

I *think* the pattern is *based on* an old Baccarat crystal candlestick.  (The Baccarat ones are etch or mold relief marked on the bottom and have a different treatment of the joints between the sections.  

I can't really tell from your picture what the foot looks like.  Are there 3 little bumps (hobbs) on the base?
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Re: Vaseline/Citrine glass candlesticks
« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2010, 03:47:09 AM »
If you go to Pamela's site and look at the 1914, Muller Kraft catalog there is one that looks very close, I don't know if they made that color or if it is an exact match.  Might be worth a try though. 
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Re: Vaseline/Citrine glass candlesticks
« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2010, 04:33:14 AM »
Thank you for the input.  I have just tried to locate the musterbuch pages on Pamela's site and keep erroring out.  Is there a new site for the catalogues or have the catalogues gone "underground"?
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Re: Vaseline/Citrine glass candlesticks
« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2010, 09:09:04 AM »
The Masterbuck page is back up and running and Bingo, the Muller Kraft stick is exactly the same as the ones I own (pattern 1072).  I know there was a lot of "sharing" of patterns between the European glass manufacturers during the early part of the 20th Century so I guess one can never be sure of a precise attribution but that is as close as one could hope to get.  Many thanks Deco.Queen.
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Re: Vaseline/Citrine glass candlesticks
« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2010, 10:22:04 AM »
Hi,
they are simply lovely. But please bear in mind that Müller and Kraft were wholesalers not producers. So while the catalogue may give you a certain date of manufacture the maker  -so far- remains unknown. Pamela may know though...  :)
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Re: Vaseline/Citrine glass candlesticks
« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2010, 12:48:33 PM »
I had no idea that they were merely distributors.  I will wait to see if anyone comes up with any further information.  Thank you again.
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Re: Vaseline/Citrine glass candlesticks
« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2010, 01:09:08 PM »
I have been searching in the catalogues round the period 1914 and have found very similar candlesticks manufactured by Baccarat in the Bambous tors pattern in 1916.  I wonder whether mine are Baccarat?
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Re: Vaseline/Citrine glass candlesticks
« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2010, 04:06:07 PM »
I have been searching in the catalogues round the period 1914 and have found very similar candlesticks manufactured by Baccarat in the Bambous tors pattern in 1916.  I wonder whether mine are Baccarat?

Yes I think those are the ones I mentioned earlier.  My (limited) understanding  is that the Baccarat sticks were marked in the mold.  I know they did do some colors as well as clear but I don't know about vaseline.  I assume yours glow under UV?
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