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Author Topic: Are the fishscale cameo vases marked as GLF (George L. Fereday) by Webb?  (Read 5630 times)

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Offline albglass

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Hi, I have a fishscale cameo vase, rose on opal glass.  These are routinely attributed to Webb.  These typically have a G. L. F. signature in script in gold on the bottom (as does mine), and auction houses advertise the signature as being that of George L. Fereday.  However, I can find nothing in my reference books about a George L Fereday, only a J.T. Fereday.   Was there really a George Fereday at Webb?  Thank you!

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There was certainly a John Thomas Fereday who was a cameo carver. A picture of the "Woodall cameo team" in Hajdamach's British Glass 1800-1914 shows Tom and George Woodall, Tom Farmer, Harry Davies, William Hill and JT Fereday.

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Yes, I have this book and have seen the information on J. T. Fereday.  The question is whether there was a George Fereday at Webb--perhaps a relative of John?  Or perhaps G.L.F. is not George Fereday at all... 

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English Cameo Glass by Ray and Lee Grover only mentions John and does not show anything resembling your vase in dozens of pictures. (I found a bowl and a crystal dish online marked GLF) Is it marked Webb? Or is that " it's Webb" another auctioneer assumption?

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Yes, mine is a melon shape with gilding on a top collar, but it is exactly the same color and decoration, thanks!  Are these being correctly attributed to Webb? 

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That's the question. I think Webb is an much overused attribution in the US, a bit like Whitefriars is here.

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No idea if the attribution is right, but I figured if we could see what we're talking about someone may be able to add more for us. Pictures in support of a question do help enormously. :) I think if we tweak the topic title that might help catch someone's eye too...

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Thanks for adding the links to some examples of the fishscale cameo vases, Anne!  This is my first posting on glassmessages and I am still trying to figure out how everything works.  It remains to be seen if I can figure out how to change the subject title to something more interesting.  If it does turn out that G.L.F. was not George L. Fereday, or that G.L.F. was not at Webb, I think this would be important information.  Over the years, I have seen perhaps a dozen of these come up at auction, and every one attributes them to a George Fereday at Webb.

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I've already changed it for you as you can only edit your own posts for a short time after making them - after that you need one of the Moderators to do it for you. :)  Let's see if one of the Webb specialists can help now. ;)

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