Looking for Glass on ebay? Angela's Designer Searches can help! Click here!

Author Topic: Are the fishscale cameo vases marked as GLF (George L. Fereday) by Webb?  (Read 2638 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline flying free

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 7021
    • UK
Re: Are the fishscale cameo vases marked as GLF (George L. Fereday) by Webb?
« Reply #30 on: September 17, 2013, 09:19:57 PM »
here is a bowl and creamer/jug but no detailed description
http://www.skinnerinc.com/auctions/2353/lots/296


Offline flying free

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 7021
    • UK
Re: Are the fishscale cameo vases marked as GLF (George L. Fereday) by Webb?
« Reply #31 on: September 17, 2013, 09:28:08 PM »
and bingo
http://www.trocadero.com/mckinleyhill/items/769215/en6.html

This pink one does have the same reg number on the bottom  except this one is painted on in black script Rd 39086 with a black thin line rectangle around it.
Size: 4.5" Dia. x 4.875" H.
It's the vase that has many lobes and small flared rim and is the pink over white with a gilded pattern of leaves and stems and fruits or berries plus a butterfly.  So they are the same registered design number, i.e the clear of Alisa's and the jug and this pink one.

So the big question - not Webb but Harrach possibly?

m


Offline flying free

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 7021
    • UK
Re: Are the fishscale cameo vases marked as GLF (George L. Fereday) by Webb?
« Reply #32 on: September 17, 2013, 10:55:23 PM »
ooh I've just found this one
http://www.sellingantiques.co.uk/antiquedetail.asp?autonumber=47399

Alisa does that bird look like a Harrach bird?
Are there any other similarities with Harrach pieces?

And then there was Baccarat (which might fit the large pontil mark? and the fish scale design and the clear and pink white colour scheme) but not sure about all the shapes?

http://mcstithantiques.com/product.php?product=336
m


Offline David E

  • Author
  • Members
  • ***
  • Posts: 3447
    • ChanceGlass.net
Re: Are the fishscale cameo vases marked as GLF (George L. Fereday) by Webb?
« Reply #33 on: September 18, 2013, 10:43:53 PM »
The following may be of interest, as it provides background to J T Fereday:

John Thomas Fereday, son of Joseph Fereday, who ran a grocery shop in Church Street, Kingswinford and his wife Sarah; b. 18th Mar 1854, Kingswinford...
Endnote 53, p.474

Because of the decline in the Cameo trade, John Thomas Fereday turned his attention to engraved glass and introduced the Dynasty crystal range. This used Egyptian motifs and such a set was chosen for a wedding gift in 1922 to HRH The Princess Royal. Fereday signed the sets. Fereday worked at Webb's for over forty years until he retired in 1922 ... His favourite colour for cameo was yellow.
p.469

Source: Glassmakers of Stourbridge and Dudley 16122002, Jason Ellis

If you are interested in Stourbridge glass and its history, then this is one book you definitely need. Fantastic research, although rather sparsely illustrated. But 600pp of text! Hope this is of interest, if not necessarily pertinent.
David
► The Curious History of the Bulb Vase ◄
 A new book by Patricia Coccoris

Contact ► Cortex Design ◄ to order any book


Offline flying free

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 7021
    • UK
Re: Are the fishscale cameo vases marked as GLF (George L. Fereday) by Webb?
« Reply #34 on: September 19, 2013, 06:32:50 AM »
Thank you David :)
m


Offline David E

  • Author
  • Members
  • ***
  • Posts: 3447
    • ChanceGlass.net
Re: Are the fishscale cameo vases marked as GLF (George L. Fereday) by Webb?
« Reply #35 on: September 19, 2013, 08:40:20 AM »
It should really have been the 2nd post, not on the 4th page  ;D

Should have added:
Pub: Xlibris. 2002
ISBN: 9781401067991
David
► The Curious History of the Bulb Vase ◄
 A new book by Patricia Coccoris

Contact ► Cortex Design ◄ to order any book


Offline flying free

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 7021
    • UK
Re: Are the fishscale cameo vases marked as GLF (George L. Fereday) by Webb?
« Reply #36 on: October 12, 2013, 08:55:06 AM »
just bumping this thread to see if there is any further information

I found this one with a picture - does it help in id'ing maker?
http://www.artfact.com/auction-lot/a-whitman-and-roth-of-london-attributed-glass-687-c-27505b9808
Description reads
' A Whitman and Roth of London attributed glass baluster vase, decorated in gilt with bamboo, registration number 39086, height 11ins'
It appears to have the same fishscale acid etched glass background glass and has been decorated with thick stalks of bamboo and leaves all gilded.  The foot is also gilded - just instinct and probably wrong, but the foot doesn't look very Bohemian to me?

And I found this on Christie's.
No picture but there is a description of a different vase marked for Whitman and Roth rd number  41925 registered 26 January 1886
It says, the glass maybe 'Continental'
http://www.christies.com/lotfinder/LotDetailsPrintable.aspx?intObjectID=890453

'A pair of acid etched and gilt decorated globular bowls in
the Japanese taste
with richly gilt rope twist rims and bracket feet, gilt in burnished shades with fish and aquatic plants reserved on an
acid-etched sty lised wave ground, acid stamp registration mark 41 925 for the London retailers Wittman and Roth,
26th January 1886, the glass perhaps Continental (one foot broken and restuck) -- 1 1 .5cm. high'


Bearing in mind also the jug I linked to here (see link below) has almost all it's gilding worn off and a mustard yellow raised ground appears for the design which would have been gilded. 
http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/5715096
m


Offline flying free

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 7021
    • UK
Re: Are the fishscale cameo vases marked as GLF (George L. Fereday) by Webb?
« Reply #37 on: October 22, 2013, 12:27:42 PM »
http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/5778409
for reference - no markings on it that are mentioned.
m


Offline flying free

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 7021
    • UK
Re: Are the fishscale cameo vases marked as GLF (George L. Fereday) by Webb?
« Reply #38 on: January 27, 2014, 06:49:48 PM »
a Webb Ivory cameo bowl with a fishscale base - I wonder if this is where the two and two made five came in?  Nothing like the vases in question. But the base has a fishscale pattern on it although the walls do not.
http://www.cmog.org/artwork/ivory-cameo-bowl? page=1&query=cameo&goto=node/51200&filter=%22bundle%3Aartwork%22&sort=bs_has_image%20desc%2Cscore%20desc%2Cbs_on_display%20desc&object=60
m


Offline bobsaunders

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 12
  • I'm new, please be gentle
    • art glass
    • united states
Re: Are the fishscale cameo vases marked as GLF (George L. Fereday) by Webb?
« Reply #39 on: January 29, 2014, 10:48:35 PM »
Hi, you asked if= Are the fishscale cameo vases marked as GLF (George L. Fereday) by Webb?

YES, About mine. Information that came with mine. The JAPANESE influance she refered to is becouse of the style of the feet.
With museum ascension.
I have seen one on-line with a trademark, an owl combined with the letter W. on the base. I exchanged serveral E=MAILS with the owner.
VASE

ENGLISH, THOMAS WEBB AND SONS, STOURBRIDGE GLASS. CASED AND SCALE-CUT WITH PARCEL-GILT, THE CUTTING BY J. P. FEREDAY.
CA. 1880

This rare vase by one of the 19th century's greatest cameo glass cutters, FEREDAY, is an example of the very expensive wares produced under the JAPANESE INFLUANCE. tHE "FISH SCALE" CUTTING WAS DIFFICULT TO ACHIEVE BUT IMPARTED a SUBTLE COLORING TO THE TRADITIONA, JAPANESE FORM OF THE VASE.

Such pieces were generally made for display on  table-tops or in vitrines. They were not produced to serve any function other than a decorative one.

LENT BY MURAL CHARON.

She was an dealer auther and a pleasure to know.
I hope this information is Beneficial tpo all.
Bob

 

Search
eBay.com
eBay.co.uk

Enter key words
Link to Glass Encyclopedia
Link to Glass Museum
Enter
key words
to search
Amazon.com