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Offline thibs23

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Black and Copper? Swirl Paperweight ID
« on: August 03, 2010, 03:25:45 PM »
Hi everyone,

Any information on this paperweight would be very helpful.  I would assume it is Murano, which means Italian right.  Is there a name for this type of design.
Any information would be helpful.

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Thank you so much,
Zach


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Re: Black and Copper? Swirl Paperweight ID
« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2010, 07:15:59 PM »
Fratelli Toso. They made their eggs not so 'eggy' they're more oval. Though worn, I can tell the sticker is what Fratelli Toso used on their weights.
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Re: Black and Copper? Swirl Paperweight ID
« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2010, 02:08:49 AM »
Lovely weight Zack, do not be tempted to remove either label as to take off the top one could damage the Fratelli Toso one underneath and THAT is the important one as it verifies the maker- worn though the label is.
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Re: Black and Copper? Swirl Paperweight ID
« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2010, 05:53:08 AM »
I forgot to add that this type of design is a crown weight. A tall one, but a crown nonetheless.
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Re: Black and Copper? Swirl Paperweight ID
« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2010, 01:14:24 PM »
The black twisted strands are usually referred to as Latticino - since a lattice is a criss-cross of timber.

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Re: Black and Copper? Swirl Paperweight ID
« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2010, 02:27:41 AM »
The black twisted strands are usually referred to as Latticino - since a lattice is a criss-cross of timber.

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Latticino specifically refers to white threading.  As in Latte the base word refers to milk.  All other colors are call filligrano.


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Re: Black and Copper? Swirl Paperweight ID
« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2010, 03:04:03 AM »
Thanks for that Sach I always thought it referred to the overlapping twisted canes making a lattice.

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Re: Black and Copper? Swirl Paperweight ID
« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2010, 03:39:09 AM »
Latticino can be any color. The word refers to the lattice appearance. It is a type of zanfirico. All the internal thread work of Venetian glass is called filigrana or filigree.

Lattimo is white glass. It is the Italian equivalent of milk glass. The "latti" in this case refers to milk.
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Offline Sach

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Re: Black and Copper? Swirl Paperweight ID
« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2010, 02:48:09 PM »
Latticino can be any color. The word refers to the lattice appearance. It is a type of zanfirico. All the internal thread work of Venetian glass is called filigrana or filigree.

Lattimo is white glass. It is the Italian equivalent of milk glass. The "latti" in this case refers to milk.

I agree that Latticino is commonly misused to describe other colors but it is correctly used only to refer to white.  Check your references.


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Re: Black and Copper? Swirl Paperweight ID
« Reply #9 on: August 08, 2010, 06:15:27 PM »

I know my last post came off a bit abrupt and I apologize for that but I hate to see misinformation get repeated.  Anyway I took my own advice and checked my references.  Paul Dunlop's "The Dictionary of Glass Paperweights" confirms my statement.  The problem with the idea that latticino refers to the english word "lattice" is that the Italian the word for lattice is "grata".  If the Italians were referring to the lattice-like appearance they might have called it gratacino.

Ok, I'll shut up now.


 

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