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Author Topic: Cool Story or No way...Czecho-Slovakia Perfume bottle  (Read 6278 times)

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Offline Jindra8526

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Re: Cool Story or No way...Czecho-Slovakia Perfume bottle
« Reply #20 on: February 05, 2009, 10:18:37 AM »
Anita is very true.

Even official name of state was from the 28th October 1918 Czechoslovakian republic, in the first years 1919 and 1920 you can also find labels or marks written not together "Czechoslovakia" but Czecho-Slovakia or French exquivalent of this. In later years always together - exeption is period between November 1938 - March 1939.

Why I am speaking so widely about this little "dash".

This little "dash" was always big political issue in relationship between two nations in former Czechoslovakia - Czech and Slovak nation. For friends who are not famililiar with it, Czech and Slovak language is very simmilar, little children can understand each other without interpreting. In period of first Czechoslovak republic - 1918 - 1938 was officialy undertaken concept of unique "Czechoslovakian" nation. It should be remembered that Czech part of country was industrial, good educated and developed, Slovak part was rather agricultural. Politicians had believed that this "fabricated" Czechoslovakian nation would better resist Germans at Czech side and Huńgarians at Slovak side. Czech had accepted this concept of one nation, but some Slovaks had own national ambitions. Therefore at the first moment when it was possible, in 1939 after ocupation of Czech part of Czechoslovakia by nazis, Slovaks had declared own Slovak state.

After WWII was Czechoslovakia renewed again, only the most east part of country was taken by Russians and connected to Soviet Union. Soon won communists and the Slovak national ambitions were suppressed. Significantly in very hard times for Czechoslovakia - in 1968 just after the Russian invasion Slovak's ambitions had grown again and Czechoslovakia was constituted like "federal republic".  But it was rather game, becouse all rule was still in communists hands.

The end of Czechoslovakia came soon after the velvet revolution in 1989. In 1990 started so called "dash war". Slovaks wanted to show that they are the nation also in the name of state and have asked for introducing "dash" to name of Czechoslovakia (Czecho-Slovakia). For Czechs this was unnaceptable, this name reminiscented the period of second republic after German annection, silly problem but quite emotional. Result was that the state had been renamed to Czech and Slovak Federal Republic - shortly written in Czech language "Československo" in Slovak language "Česko-Slovensko"  :)

It did not help, Slovak separatistic ambitions were actively supported by about 20 percent Slovak voters, the futer existence of one Czechoslovak state was ineffective a irational. It was agreed in peace that country will be splitted from January 1st 1993, every Czechoslovakian citisen has got chance to select his nation and state without any restrictions according his personal wish. Two month later was divided also common currency. Nowadays both states are member of EU, Czechs keep their currency Czech Koruna, Slovaks joined Euro this January.

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Re: Cool Story or No way...Czecho-Slovakia Perfume bottle
« Reply #21 on: February 05, 2009, 09:18:58 PM »
Great information, Christine and Jindra. It clears the uncertainty about the dates on the Moser and Loetz stamps. I wondered if the broken name reflected the unrest that the different states felt about their alliance, but did not want to mention it without any documentation. To get back to the original poster's glass, I suspect it may have been made c. 1938 because it is overstamped "Germany." I doubt that the older things would still be for sale when the Nazis invaded.
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Re: Cool Story or No way...Czecho-Slovakia Perfume bottle
« Reply #22 on: September 12, 2010, 03:23:04 PM »
I´m new here and I just found this very interesting topic which was discussed already some time ago.
Well, I found an advertisement (end of the 60s) of a quite important german glass manufactoring company at Kaufbeuren-Neugablonz (="New-Jablonec"), Bavaria, which was founded by former bohemian glassworkers and entrepreneurs after expulsion from czechoslovakia in 1946. But this is only one of a number of producers, who made traditional bohemian products for many years.

The nazi-tale about this perfume bottle probably sounds more spectacular, but I agree with Jindrich, that it is far more likely the bottle is fom the late 60s ore even 70s when parallel to the economic uprising in Germany the wages grew fastly, the competitiveness of german glass-companies sufferd. It was very common for german producers to cooperate with czechoslovakian and slovenian companies at that time. So sometimes it was cheaper to let produce in CSSR and deal with it, many examples are known. But this is nothing unusual, there were also a lot of german perfume bottles that were produced by "Kristallglas GmbH" in Hesse for example and later on sold by "Marcel Franck" on 5th Avenue as Made in France...

So here is an example of "german bohemian" products from the late 60s,


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