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Author Topic: Amethyst vase, stepped sides - ID = Lausitzer Glaswerke, "Gent"  (Read 1159 times)
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« on: August 29, 2010, 11:39:53 PM »

Quite a heavy piece of amethyst coloured glass, I know I should recognise the shape but it illudes me  BooHoo

Measures almost 20cm.



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« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2010, 04:04:45 AM »

It looks very similar to a vase Jindrich has in his "Questions - Solved Issues" section - http://www.webareal.cz/ceskoslovenskesklo/8-ZEPTEJTE-SE-QUESTIONS/15-Vyresene-solved-issues/0/0/0/discussion-all/136#bott136 

Rosice 5123/200 from 1969, designer unknown for the time being.  But I strongly suggest you wait for confirmation from someone more knowledgable than 'moi'  Undecided.

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« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2010, 04:13:36 AM »

Hi,
it´s a ´Gent´ vase, made by Lausitzer Glaswerke, see Pamela´s site Glas-Musterbuch:
http://www.glas-musterbuch.de/Lausitzer-Glas-1969.91+B6YmFja1BJRD05MSZwcm9kdWN0SUQ9Mzg4OCZwaWRfcHJvZHVjdD05MSZkZXRhaWw9.0.html
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« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2010, 04:26:19 AM »

Aw Dirk, you're such a  show-off  :ac1:

But you're obviously right.  (One question, though...  is the person who posted this vase (see link) as confused as I am?  Is it also a "gent" vase? http://www.antiques-international.ch/sklo_d/index.php?m=03&y=10&d=21&entry=entry100301-112756)

You live and learn  Smiley
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« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2010, 04:34:15 AM »

What is a "Gent" Vase?  :tof:

I know glass comes in different shapes, styles, and colors -- now different Sexes?  Oh, I will never learn all of this... Thud

 ROFL  No wonder my China Cabinet *seems* to be producing more glass every time I look in it -- now I know why...
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« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2010, 09:20:42 AM »

Hi,
it´s a ´Gent´ vase, made by Lausitzer Glaswerke, see Pamela´s site Glas-Musterbuch:
http://www.glas-musterbuch.de/Lausitzer-Glas-1969.91+B6YmFja1BJRD05MSZwcm9kdWN0SUQ9Mzg4OCZwaWRfcHJvZHVjdD05MSZkZXRhaWw9.0.html
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Thank you Dirk, much appreciated.
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« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2010, 09:38:50 AM »

Umm, just under the vase in question, in the link posted by Anik,

http://www.antiques-international.ch/sklo_d/index.php?m=03&y=10&d=21&entry=entry100301-112756

there's an amber tumbler, said to be by Rosice, (no designer) but it looks awfully like Inwald's Jacobean.
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« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2010, 09:44:18 AM »

Now I am lost, possibly there are some differences, in Marcus database is only drwaing of Rosice 5123, same height 200 mm...
Glass attributiongis sometimes very exciting :-)

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« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2010, 10:32:30 AM »

I think you´ve made an important point, Jindrich. I´ve also found it hard sometimes to recognise the pieces in flesh from the
line drawings in the SU catalogues.
A pointer concerning this vase is the much less carefully ground base - not czech high quality.  Wink
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« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2010, 10:48:04 AM »

What a relief...  now I don't feel so silly giving a wrong attribution  Smiley

It's interesting that both the Rosice and Lausitzer Glaswerke vase were produced in 1969.  I wonder, if they are indeed different vases, what they look like side by side, and base by base.
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« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2010, 03:43:00 PM »

They come in blue as well, I thought this was Rosice when I first bought it but the base is definitely different and l had already read the Lausitzer attribution elsewhere. Still it's a lovely colour and it fits in well. Smiley

Although mine is 150mm. Because I like to be different.



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« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2010, 09:18:16 PM »

Dirk is right, the amethyst one at the top is a Lausitzer Glaswerke, "Gent" vase, not Rosice, SU.
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« Reply #12 on: August 30, 2010, 09:25:08 PM »

Umm, just under the vase in question, in the link posted by Anik,

http://www.antiques-international.ch/sklo_d/index.php?m=03&y=10&d=21&entry=entry100301-112756

there's an amber tumbler, said to be by Rosice, (no designer) but it looks awfully like Inwald's Jacobean.

It is Inwald "Jacobean" Sue, latterly known as Rudolfova Hut'. The Rosice 244 pattern has narrow fillets in between each row of panels, unlike "Jacobean" which just has the panels.

The Rosice 244 is shown below... (image courtesy of Marcus Newhall)

My Jacobean jug shows the pattern difference quite clearly...


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« Reply #13 on: June 24, 2011, 11:13:01 PM »

Back to Gent vs. 5123

1. Rosice 5123 or Lausitzer Gent 200 size
2. Lausitzer Gent 150 size

Naturally not the same size, limiting conclusions and pity above examples do not show bases. Any chance tese can be added.

My thoughts...

Freelance designer who sold the design to both factories with only a country exclusive clause....

Licensed design... but in the same year... no, don't buy that.

Flagrant copying, don't buy that either...

Is the base typical of Lausitzer? If not it could well be a Czech designer, which ones were freelancing in 1969 period?
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« Reply #14 on: June 25, 2011, 06:44:36 AM »

What is a "Gent" Vase?  :tof:

named after the thirdlargest city in Belgium  Thud
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