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« on: September 02, 2010, 06:28:39 PM » |
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Austria - today - 10 am - visiting a nice antiquemarket ...
the results in glass were - one Fritsche vase and a Lobmeyr water glass ..!
so i now have my first signed " Fritsche " :rah:
does anybody know when it was made ?
greetings from happy Thomas
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« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2010, 06:50:09 PM » |
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Beautiful piece  if I've got this right the Webbs mark is 1906-1935,best I can do  |
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« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2010, 06:53:01 PM » |
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thx a lot - hmm 1906 - 1935 .. wide range :huh:
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« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2010, 07:12:13 PM » |
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That's beautiful. Fritsche died in 1924 and was still working until then, so that cuts 11 years off. |
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« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2010, 07:13:38 PM » |
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oh many thx - we are getting nearer and nearer  |
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« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2010, 07:44:10 PM » |
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Wow!  Congratulations, Thomas :D What a beautiful piece! Now, exactly where are these antique markets which you frequent?   |
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« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2010, 07:53:22 PM » |
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Hi Thomas I think maybe at the bottom end of the range close to 1906. What a beautiful piece I'm ! Lots of sunshine again today  Hazel |
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« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2010, 07:55:03 PM » |
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to be honest - it was a dealer who knew that i collect antique silver claret jugs and he asked if i know an engraver named W. Fritsche - i got a little excited and said yes - a bohemian who worked in england etc etc .. - and in the end i bought it for 250 BP .. i think that is an win - win situation because he bought it for 20 BP . to answer your question : the market is 4 times a year in graz the capital of styria with about 400 exhibitors - 380 have rubbish and 20 are expensive ! and here in austria the dealers are far away from being so informed like the english dealers and collector because the don`t do any teamwork - they are all one-man- shows and in england - i often see that - if a dealer has an unidentified item - within a a few minutes other dealers are around him and everybody is saying what it is or what it could be ! Th best story i heard about this topic was a discussion about an nice antique painted glass goblet - they all looked at it and bespoke every details of the glass till someone said : now i know : The painting is old the glass is new !!  |
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« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2010, 07:56:35 PM » |
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hi hazel my sunshine ! we had some " liquid " sunshine today  |
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« Reply #9 on: September 02, 2010, 08:16:16 PM » |
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You're right we love to stand around talking about items. It takes me hours to get round my local antiques fair (held over three days) because I have to chat to all the dealers I know. Sharing what you buy greatly increases the fun of the hunt I think that was a very good price for such a nice piece, in a good English auction house I'm sure it would have been more if properly catalogued. Hazel |
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« Reply #10 on: September 02, 2010, 08:28:02 PM » |
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i hink, the price was ok - anyway - i will walk my line and i should stay with my claret jugs otherwise i have to build a second storehouse :-)
there is an interesting decanter up for auction in shaftesbury .. anybody near to Semley auctioneers ?
a late C19th Stourbridge Stevens & Williams `rock crystal` engraved glass claret jug with stopper, circa 1885, decorated with exotic birds among flowering shrubs, the engraving probably by John Orchard of a design by Joseph Keller, 13.4ins. (34cms.) high (overall) (see illustration). Footnote - a pair of decanters matching the present claret jug were sold Sotheby`s Olympia, 29th June 2004 (£3,360).
looks very similar to my claret jug !
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« Reply #11 on: September 02, 2010, 08:52:47 PM » |
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Interesting, Shaftsbury is around 25 miles from me.
Hazel
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« Reply #12 on: September 02, 2010, 09:04:07 PM » |
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oh - thats sounds very :-) first i will ask them for a condition report - and then .. it would be great to have another expert there who could take a look at it ! of course for a lot of the very finest austrian handmade chocolate and all additional costs this person would have to get there and back home ;-)........  |
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« Reply #13 on: September 02, 2010, 09:35:13 PM » |
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Chocolate :rah:
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