No-one likes general adverts, and ours hadn't been updated for ages, so we're having a clear-out and a change round to make the new ones useful to you. These new adverts bring in a small amount to help pay for the board and keep it free for you to use, so please do use them whenever you can, Let our links help you find great books on glass or a new piece for your collection. Thank you for supporting the Board.

Author Topic: more info on this celery vase - ID = Bagley Carnival  (Read 921 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline ju1i3

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 280
    • London
    • Hyacinth Vases
more info on this celery vase - ID = Bagley Carnival
« on: September 24, 2010, 11:51:39 AM »
I bought this on ebay but I don't know much about about it. Is it a celery vase? Any idea about the maker and mark on the bottom (difficult to read but I think it is: REG NO 849118)? Value?
thanks very much, Julie
Julie

Offline Anne

  • GMB Tech Support Manager & "Board (never bored) Dame"
  • Global Moderator
  • Members
  • *
  • Posts: 12278
  • Gender: Female
  • I has a stick to poke the server with yes!
    • Glass trinket sets
    • Cumbria England
    • ALAVNA Vintage & Collectable Glass
Re: more info on this celery vase please
« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2010, 01:06:38 PM »
Julie, it's Bagley "Carnival" pattern 3141 celery vase, design registered Nov 1946 but made for many years afterwards. Carnival is a fairly common Bagley pattern. [Source: Bagley Glass by Angela Bowey, Derek & Betty Parsons]

Offline ju1i3

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 280
    • London
    • Hyacinth Vases
Re: more info on this celery vase please
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2010, 03:33:51 PM »
Thank you so much! That was so quick :)
Julie

Offline colink

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 73
  • Gender: Male
  • Carnival glass rocks
Re: more info on this celery vase please
« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2010, 04:04:40 PM »
That is very nice indeed good purchase

Offline Anne

  • GMB Tech Support Manager & "Board (never bored) Dame"
  • Global Moderator
  • Members
  • *
  • Posts: 12278
  • Gender: Female
  • I has a stick to poke the server with yes!
    • Glass trinket sets
    • Cumbria England
    • ALAVNA Vintage & Collectable Glass
Re: more info on this celery vase - ID = Bagley Carnival
« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2016, 01:25:46 PM »
Coming back to this to add that a while back I found a blue one of these which does have the word CELERY on it on the side!  8)

Offline Paul S.

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 7278
  • Gender: Male
Re: more info on this celery vase - ID = Bagley Carnival
« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2016, 03:52:58 PM »
tut tut Julie  -  fancy you asking for a value..........  after all the replies we've given explaining why we don't ;D ;D ;)

If you look in the Board's Glass Gallery under '06 Registered Designs', you'll see a bowl in 'Carnival' that Anne (Mod.) posted with some data on this pattern.
You are correct with the Rd. No. of 849118 -  unfortunately the Blue Book ends at August 1945, so can't be more precise than Anne's comment of November 1946 - but others may know the exact date of Registration.

Offline Anne

  • GMB Tech Support Manager & "Board (never bored) Dame"
  • Global Moderator
  • Members
  • *
  • Posts: 12278
  • Gender: Female
  • I has a stick to poke the server with yes!
    • Glass trinket sets
    • Cumbria England
    • ALAVNA Vintage & Collectable Glass
Re: more info on this celery vase - ID = Bagley Carnival
« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2016, 12:25:42 AM »
Awwww Paul, be nice to Julie, it was 6 years ago that she asked not recently :P  My update was recent which is why it popped back up again.  ;D

I should have also mentioned that my blue vase carries the RD number on the base as well.

I can't pin down the date closer as the Bagley Glass book (Bowey, Parsons and Parsons) says Nov 1946, whilst the Nat. Archives catalogue just gives:

Reference:   BT 52/2375
Description:   
Designs 849113-849294
Date:   1946-1947
Held by:   The National Archives, Kew
Legal status:   Public Record(s)
Closure status:   Open Document, Open Description

but unlike earlier entries there is no detail for the individual rd nos. - "not digitised" it says.

The only way to pin it closer would be to ask you to look it up on a future visit to the NA Paul, if thought necessary.  :-*

Offline Paul S.

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 7278
  • Gender: Male
Re: more info on this celery vase - ID = Bagley Carnival
« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2016, 07:20:39 AM »
you're quite right, it was six years ago - I hadn't seen that :-[            Julie won't forgive me and probably won't buy me another coffee in town either ;)             big apologies Julie :-*

I will include this one when I next visit  -  and I've also checked the details and you are correct with BT 52/2375 covering '46/'47.           If nothing else it will be interesting to see which pattern/shape in the Carnival range the Registration was based on.

Carnival is one of the more common pressed glass designs I see when ferreting around - bowls in particular.

Offline ju1i3

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 280
    • London
    • Hyacinth Vases
Re: more info on this celery vase - ID = Bagley Carnival
« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2016, 07:38:10 AM »
It was a while ago - probably one of my first posts! (I joined July 2010) I know now this pattern very well now and how common it is. I gave this vase to the school where my husband teaches.
Julie

Offline Paul S.

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 7278
  • Gender: Male
Re: more info on this celery vase - ID = Bagley Carnival
« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2016, 06:11:40 PM »
the attached pix show that the original shape on which this Registration was based was a bowl.            I do have the Register page taken in higher magnification, but split over two photographs - so if anyone can't read the Register page details from the attached photo, shout and I'll post the split pix.

The Register page shows clearly that the Registration for this 'Carnival' design was extended for a second period of five years - so obviously Bagley thought this design worth protecting beyond the usual first five years.

 

Look for glass on
 ebay.co.uk 
Look for glass on
 eBay.com (US)

Link to Glass Encyclopedia
Link to Glass Museum


This Website is provided by Angela Bowey, PO Box 113, Paihia 0247, New Zealand