Topic: pressed pattern vase hand finished - huh? ID = US Glass

[Ivo]

I found this one. Pressed, obviously, including the star in the bottom and the diamond pattern; but the neck seems to be hand finished. There may have been a wire cage with it @ some stage. It's a curious mix. Quite heavy. I can not place it.

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[Anne]

Ivo, it has a look of Davidson's 1885 hobnail suite. Chris Stewart may be able to tell you more.

[paradisetrader]

The width of the collar looks unnecessarily deep for a "rose cage" if that's what you are thinking, Ivo. Ditto a metal rim or fitting.

Perhaps it is a part of something larger ....the collar to fit precisely into another part ....but what ? ....a Lamp ?

[Glen]

It reminds me of Brockwitz' "Hammonia" (aka Regal Cane). If so, it looks like a blumenbowl, and would have had a metal fitment to hold flowers on top. They do have that deep set shape.

Glen

[Anne]

Could the deep collar be because it had some sort of lid I wonder?

[Ivo]

Thanks everybody for the suggestions. It does not really look as if there has been a lid or a wire cage - at least there are no traces of wear and the top is really nicely finished. On the other hand, there is a flat rim - so maybe a domed lid? But there is no wear at all. I'll rummage through the pattern books and see if I can find similar items

[Adam]

Unless the sides are impossibly thick this is mould blown, not pressed.  Can be confirmed by feeling gentle undulations on the inside corresponding roughly with the external pattern.  As the latter is small, these undulations will be very slight.  The top must have been hand finished in some way, as suggested, but I can't guess exactly how without the article in my hands.

Adam D.

[Frank]

I have never noticed much wear on Ginger Jars with glass lids, nor on rose bowls that did not have tight fitting metal lids. The lids tend to get moved less then the bottoms which are invariably slid into final position on surfaces.

[Ivo]

side view
http://tinypic.com/iykd2t.jpg

bottom view
http://tinypic.com/iykd5g.jpg

top view
http://tinypic.com/iykegl.jpg

measures: diameter 15 (6")
                 height 13 (4")
                 neck diameter 9 (3.5")
                 wall thickness 7 mm
                 weight 850 grams

Adam I think the walls are impossibly thick and gentle undulations are felt only on the inside of the top row of diamonds. Lower down the item is completely smooth. There are four vertical mould lines on the outside - but not in the neck - and a circular one around the bottom.

[Adam]

Subject to any after-shaping, e.g. at the top, the real criterion of a pressed article is that the plunger has to come out, i.e the inside when pressed must be an inverted truncated cone although the taper can be very slight.  Hence my comment about the sides being impossibly (I wasn't sure about spelling "ridiculously") thick!  If they were thick enough for the plunger to come out production would be extremely slow due to the cooling time of the very thick walls.

Adam D.