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Offline butchiedog

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« Reply #10 on: December 21, 2005, 09:34:01 PM »
Thanks again Connie,

That stuff is great to know when keeping track of the many reproduction items that are being sprinkled around in antique malls, among older things these days. Some of these crooks have even sunk to the degree that they are grinding and polishing round marks into the bottoms of Fenton glass items, claiming that those are polished pontil marks and calling it Hobbs glass. Some even shake the dust from their vacuum cleaner bags on the new glass in their mall displays to make it appear it has been sitting around in their shop for years. And then there is what shows up on ebay, said to have been great grand-ma's or from some 99 year old person's estate sale, geesh.

Many thanks again for the info.

Mike

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Forgot to mention that the owner of Summitt, Gary V. ??? passed away recently and the company is closed.  They're  still negotiating who will get the molds from that concern. Also;  Brooke Glass close down in the late 1990s, I don't know the details of that one.

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« Reply #11 on: December 21, 2005, 09:36:52 PM »
No question, the pattern is that of the Westmoreland Paneled Grape  shown in both Mike and Connie's posts above.  As for the shape of the shield,  it is exactly the same as that of the paper label used by the Tiffin Glass Company of Tiffin, Ohio.  (Think of it as the Tiffin Shield with the letter N or M replacing the T for Tiffin.).

Thanks again to everyone.

Paul ADK

Sorry forgot to answer one question, the letter appears to be a capital M or N looking pretty much like those in this sentence.

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« Reply #12 on: December 21, 2005, 10:01:26 PM »
A fascinating and most interesting thread. Thank you.

Thanks, Mike, for the info on Summit. I had heard they had closed but I didn't know why. The owner's name was Vogelsong, by the way. I chatted with him on the phone a number of times in the past. There sure are a lot of moulds there...........

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« Reply #13 on: December 21, 2005, 10:13:50 PM »
Paul ADK,

This is a mystery to me, especially since I am working on collecting and drawing glass mark images to build a website for those who are looking to ID a mark.

Going by what you have described I made this picture, along side of an old Tiffin label.

(http://tinypic.com/ixxo9z.jpg)

Am I on the right track here?  If so I will pass this around to other boards and see if I can find out who is using this mark.

Mike

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« Reply #14 on: December 22, 2005, 12:23:32 AM »
Mike:

I would say that the form of the shield is completely correct although the outline is a bit heavier - say two to three times as thick.  Also the letter M or N (I'm still not sure which) is a bit larger, taking up more space inside the shield.  By the way, my wife and I both looked at the items with a glass, and neither of us could determine what the letter was.

Hope this helps.
Paul ADK

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