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Offline nigel benson

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Re: Webb carved blue and clear plates
« Reply #10 on: October 19, 2010, 01:45:47 PM »
Hello,

Maybe I'm reading this wrongly, but doesn't Paul say quite clearly in:

"Re: Webb carved blue and clear plates
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then the date range would appear to be circa 1935 - 39.

Then it's corrected to:
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'1935  -  49'.

So why all the fuss and the circa? Surely, its reasonable for us to understand what Paul was saying?

As for your comment about being an expert Bernard, I have to agree with you .....that we probably regard ourselves as 'specialists'. However, maybe it's for others to regard you as an expert, whatever you may feel about it? After all it's quite a compliment ;) :)

Interestingly we are all tending to refer to a book that is 23 years old for marks - BGbtW. It's appendix was not regarded as comprehensive when published. An observation that propelled me to Charles Hajdamach's 20th Century British Glass to see if he had done something more comprehensive. Answer - nothing at all :o Bit of a missed opportunity, that I hadn't noticed 'til now.

Nigel

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Re: Webb carved blue and clear plates
« Reply #11 on: October 19, 2010, 06:36:43 PM »
Nigel, I will photograph from the back tomorrow for you but to me it appears to have been cut through a blue overlay BUT I am not that knowledgable to actually state that.
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Re: Webb carved blue and clear plates
« Reply #12 on: October 20, 2010, 01:48:53 PM »
Okay guys here are more photo's, this time off the back of the shallow dish/plate.

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Re: Webb carved blue and clear plates
« Reply #13 on: October 21, 2010, 12:08:56 AM »
Hi,

The unpolished irratically honeycombed areas are the same as some Cameo Fleur by Webbs. I believe, from memory, that it was used as the background on a series of abstract patterned vases, also by Webb, that are the same period as the Cameo Fleur - sometimes refered top as pseudo-cameo.

This would suggest your bowls are pre-war, and frankly, despite the date stamp saying up to 1949, it is likely that most things bearing this mark are pre-war designs, because of the post-war restrictions on the production of luxury glass and often a reliance on pre-war work/designs. NOTE:This is NOT a given.

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Re: Webb carved blue and clear plates
« Reply #14 on: October 22, 2010, 06:49:47 PM »
Thank you everyone for your input   :)
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Re: Webb carved blue and clear plates
« Reply #15 on: October 22, 2010, 08:55:27 PM »
hello Pat :) - and glad the experts were able to assist.  You may of course be selling your five plates as a single lot  -  if not however, and you care to name a price for one only, I would be happy to make a purchase.   You may email me 'off board' if you wish.   Paul S.

 

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